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Posted by: resipsaloquitur ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 06:33PM

Another thread asked about stupid things we did as a result of our entanglement in the Morg. Sexual abstinence is definitely one of those things for me.

I was married right after my mission, but my wife died shortly thereafter, as I've mentioned in other posts. After the initial shock wore off, I was so lonely, desperate and horny that I convinced a girl to marry me as soon as I could. Of course, I received confirmation from the Spirit that she was my second one and only eternal companion.

We abstained entirely, with the exception of some harmless kissing. We didn't even talk about sex for fear it would ignite passions within us that would be too difficult to resist.

However, little did I know that her reasons for abstaining and not talking about sex were not so much related to a desire to remain worthy as they were to the fact that she was entirely ignorant of the physiology and mechanics of sexual intercourse. Her words on our wedding night were, and I quote exactly, "That goes WHERE?!?!"

I was horrified, since boning her was my one and only objective in getting married in the first place. She then was too afraid to have sex for two months after the wedding. Unfortunately, I have now heard variations of this story many times since then from others who were harmed by the Morg's unhealthy repression of sexuality.

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Posted by: resipsaloquitur ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 06:44PM

And sorry, the title should read "Abstinence!" And I usually pride myself on my good spelling! LOL

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Posted by: Mr. Eyepatch ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 06:45PM

Please tell me that this story is "made-up" for funny, shock effect. I find it hard to believe, in this day and age, that an adult woman could be so ignorant of the realities of the sex act. I mean, it's all over the place: mTV, TV reality shows, Hollywood movies, cable TV, women's magazines, ladies gossip circles, books (The Joy of Sex), high school sex-ed classes, etc.

I repeat my question...is that type of complete sexual ignorance even possible in our society? Even for Mormons?? I suspect that even AMISH girls know that part A goes into part B.

Not trying to be mean...my question is sincere :^)

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Posted by: resipsaloquitur ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 06:47PM

It is not made up. I'm horrified to say that it's entirely true.

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Posted by: Mr. Eyepatch ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 07:00PM

Could it have been a "poorly understood" joke from a nervous girl? I mean, do you really believe that she was TRULY unaware that her vagina was designed to receive an erect penis? I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but I'm having trouble believing that she was that sheltered. Could it have been a misunderstanding, or a nervous joke?

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Posted by: resipsaloquitur ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 07:02PM

Ya, I really don't want to argue this with you. It's a true story, and she really didn't know. She came from an overbearing true-believing superstitious Mexican Catholic family that converted into even more true-believing superstitious Mormons. You wanna talk about guilt-complexes and sexual repression, that takes the cake.

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Posted by: Mr. Eyepatch ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 07:10PM

Thank you for sharing your story. I believe that this type of situation can only be avoided if humans share information with each other. I blame religion for this ridiculous situation. It turned, what should have been a joyous coupling, into a shattered honeymoon. I'm sorry for questioning the story. I'm equally sorry for this poor, sheltered girl. I hope that she's doing OK now.

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Posted by: resipsaloquitur ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 07:12PM

Religion of all forms and descriptions fosters ignorance. Learning is the enemy of superstition, so superstition must supress learning if it is to survive. No question but that religion was to blame here.

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Posted by: helamonster ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 06:48PM

Until I was baptized, the future Mrs. Hela and I were *not* abstinent. In other words, as a drug pusher will say, "The first one was free. Now you gotta pay."

For a few years afterward, I was somewhat resentful, and felt I had been used.

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Posted by: kookoo4kokaubeamoffline ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 08:18PM

Isn't it amazing how they can change once they get married?

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Posted by: anon ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 08:24PM

I dated a girl at BYU in '04 who had never seen a penis. Of course, she could have been lying to impress me about how 'virtuous' she was...but I tend to believe her story. She was very sheltered.

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Posted by: Itzpapalotl ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 09:08PM

I've posted this before, but in my Abnormal Psych class at BYU, we covered sexual disorders/dysfucntions. I had a really cool never-mo professor who opened the floor for any questions people had about sexuality.

One class member told his story of when he married his wife, she didn't even know about the clitoris and other important female parts.
Another said he was so sheltered about sex that he decided to watch an educational video (the kind for couples) so he could learn what to do with his future wife. He also mentioned how he repented to his bishop of this "grevious" sin.

This was 12 years ago, I was 5 years younger than most of my classmates, The only reason I knew so much about sex was due to my non-mo friends who gave me all sorts of information you don't pick up in Mormon homes.

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Posted by: gemini ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 10:14PM

I worked with a very naive woman back in the 80's who got married to an equally naive young man. After several months, she was boo-hooing to us about not getting pregnant yet. In the course of the conversation, it was discovered that she and her husband had never consumated their marriage and they both thought she could get pregnant by just coming "close" and being naked. We didn't believe her at first, but then we realized that she really thought it could happen that way! They ended up divorced.

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Posted by: too shy to say ( )
Date: November 11, 2010 10:32PM

I had a partner, who had been married, she had & her husband had been true believers.
After the Gift of Tongues (her first experience of it) she was telling me about how during the service she "discovered" she had a very sensitive spot--she was well into her 20's and had no clue she had a clitoris until I demonstrated it's existence for her.

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Posted by: blahsomemore ( )
Date: November 12, 2010 12:37AM

It's not that uncommon, even outside of Mormonism. I don't remember what article I was reading, but it had quotes from famous actors and their first intercourse. One female actor said something to the effect of thinking men had balls - but nothing more than balls, and boy was she glad when she found out they had more! It's not that hard to be sheltered. Heck, I failed an exam in my health class at 16 because I missed words like "orgasm".

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Posted by: loveskids ( )
Date: November 12, 2010 01:13AM

Dh and I married in 1972-St/ George Temple. He was 21,I was 20. We decided we better get with it about 6 months later. (make a baby) Well,it didn't work.After a year of trying we went to a dr. in St. George-LDS. The first thing he asked us was if we knew how to have sex. If we knew where dh's member was supposed to go. He wanted vivid details. We provided them,much to my embarrasment. It took us 11 years (and 4 adoptions) to get pregnant.

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