Plus, there are few Mormons who I'm going to track down and rub in their face mercilessly just as they did to me when I left.
I still remember one bishopric counsellor who I served with on two bishoprics who really turned hostile and agressive towards my reasons for leaving. I'll never forget how he said I would find Joseph Smith standing next to Jesus Christ at the judgement bar and how I would shrink away and hide from Joseph. I laughed and said that I had no doubt that Joseph would not been anywhere near Christ at that day except for when he's braught in chains before him to be cast into the fate he deserves.
Later, just a few months ago, he tried to tell me that these were just good men who made mistakes but the church was still true...wow, if that's what it takes to make you feel good about polygamy, the peepstone, the masonic rituals, etc, then I really do feel sorry for him. He's seriously bet on the wrong horse and it's so easy to confirm and catch Joe in his lies that I have no sympathy for people who claim to have researched the history and choose to stay in it. They've picked their fate, I escaped mine.
rj Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No special tax treatment. > They run it like a business they should be taxed > like one.
I myself would like a public apology, a refund of all my tithing, and the transformation of all the ward houses into community centers. If they stayed a church, they should be required to have an all-female clergy and provide free counseling to all the damaged families, paid for by selling off the temples.
It would be delicious of BKP would come out of the closet and Monson join AA for his secret vice. But that would be just gravy.
F. Mike Watson telling Monson that Christ has returned, according to the guy on the telephone & to tell Monson that the call is coming from Rome, Italy!
They need to admit it's all a lie. Then they need to disappear. And I would like a time machine for all the wasted years and bad decisions I made based on it.
I would just want them to start acting like a normal church!
Let the women wear pants if they want (including the female missionaries!!!).
Let the missionaries date (I mean really, nobody cares!).
Get rid of the mason-like temple ceremonies. It scares people and is the backbone of 90% of LDS' problems.
Just let people attend church on Sunday, and if they want they can pay tithe.
Tithe should be 10% of what you have left over AFTER taxes, and AFTER your bills are paid.
Just be a CHURCH. Support the belief in the bible, god and Christ, stand on your own two feet and quit tripping about Joseph Smith, and becomming Gods!!!
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the slightest thing about anything religious let alone any god. I would like to see them publically humiliated as the frauds they are. I don't want any apology, just the whole world seeing them for what they really are....business men. Then I'd like to see their financial books made public, their tax free status removed, and (this is REALLY pie in the sky) all that is owned by TSCC turned over to a worthy non-profit organization that is non-religious. Well, I might even settle for the Salvation Army taking it over. Maybe I'll dream about such a perfect outcome tonight in my sleep. lol
3. Liquidate assets and pay back as much tithing that they can. (Lard knows they have the records to do it!)
4. Temples become open to the public and used for all sorts of humanitarian aid and/or debauchery. :)
Personally, I have this dream of KKK taking the throne, and one day, during Gen Con just saying, "F**k it! It's all fake!! We're all faking it and using it to stroke our egos!!"
I have lifelong issues with anxiety and self-esteem because of that "church," as well as a superficial, strained relationship with my parents. There is no justice for that.
In order for real justice to be done, the clock would have to be turned back and Joseph Smith would have to be dead before he even thought of the book of mormon.
For the prophet to stand up,in a special,everyone better be attending and listening,meeting and say it's all a lie. That would be soooo sweet. And of course we should All get our money back.
The church needs a department of internal affairs, like police departments have. The current structure allows no recourse for members who are mistreated. Stake presidents support their bishops, and no one listens above the stake president level. An independent body who investigates members' concerns would be a welcome change.
Reading some of the posts I think I have a diffrent idea now.
I want one of the presidants wives hopefuly this one to convince her hubby not to make a will that will have the church assets going to the next presedant but as next of kin they all go to her. She takes everything and shuts down all church busnisses that arnt helping people but those she slowly makes sure some other organisation takes over with and she sells off everything makeing a massive ammount of money.
She goes pubilc and as the wife of the presidant she gives huge ammounts of proof its all just a big fat lie and after that everyone goes public about the abuse they had at the hands of the church.
That huge ammount of money from selling off church land busnisses and even down to the brass bulls on the temple baptismal fonts suddenly all gets put into charaties every last penny of it. Mostly charaties that will deal with helping sort out the problems the church caused.
So slowly everything goes back to normal and slowly the damage is patched enough so people can live thair lives without fear of the church.
By the next genoration of kids it was just a bad memory for most people and gets to have no mroe affect than the bogyman.