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Posted by: informer ( )
Date: February 15, 2012 11:05AM

The only difference here is which century we are talking about.

The Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición was instituted in 1480 by los Reyes Católicos, Isabel I de Castilla and Fernando II de Aragón, to purify the faith in Spain. It was only the latest in a series of harsh assimilationist policies on the part of Spain's Catholic elite. Pogroms against Spanish Jews had begun in the late years of the previous century, and while legal scholars of the time theoretically acknowledged that a forced baptism was not a valid sacrament, a person who was baptized under threat of death was still regarded as a voluntary convert, and accordingly forbidden to revert to Judaism. Many of the Conversos, or New Christians, fearing further persecution or death, felt it safer to remain in their "new" religion.

Mormons practice "baptism for the dead" in a ritual purported to "give a choice" to the deceased who may not, in their time on earth, have had an opportunity to learn about (and subscribe to) Mormonism. The ritual prayer, however, says nothing at all about a "choice" being offered: it concerns itself only with bestowing Mormon membership on the deceased person. For the past twenty years, the Mormon church has come under repeated scrutiny because of their habit of mining lists of Jewish Holocaust victims for names to submit for baptism into Mormonism. This practice of double victimization has understandably caused offence to living persons related to or concerned with the memory of those Holocaust victims.

The Spanish Inquisition said "be baptized, or die."
The Mormon Inquisition says "die, and be baptized."

The Jews say "knock it off, douchebags."

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Posted by: informer ( )
Date: February 15, 2012 05:16PM

What, nobody thought that was witty? :-)

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Posted by: Levi ( )
Date: February 15, 2012 05:19PM


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Posted by: informer ( )
Date: February 16, 2012 07:41AM

LOL! One of my favorite songs...

:-)

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: February 15, 2012 05:40PM

How about this. Wouldn't it be more effective missionary work if missionaries were to kill the people at the door then baptize them for the dead? You could come home from your mission with HUNDREDS of baptisms easily. The people would be dead and then approached by the missionaries on the other side and so would be MUCH more receptive to accepting the vicarious baptism. The result would be many more people making it to the CK.

I think the Church spends too much time on Joseph Smith and not enough on Porter Rockwell.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2012 05:40PM by baura.

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Date: February 15, 2012 05:47PM


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Date: February 16, 2012 07:42AM


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