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Posted by: Heltz ( )
Date: April 15, 2012 09:50PM

I reading a friend's blog and the entry was an invite to a luncheon after her oldest son's ordination on Father's Day, June 17th.

"If you don't make it to the ordination and have what I deem to be a good excuse you are invited to the luncheon. This is enough forewarning though so I don't expect many good excuses."

1. What a rude comment to make.

2. Is this the ordination where an old man goes into a room with a boy and asks the boy if he masterbates?

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Posted by: Mia ( )
Date: April 15, 2012 09:55PM

I'm speechless.

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Posted by: ozcrone ( )
Date: April 15, 2012 09:58PM

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Posted by: jessica ( )
Date: April 15, 2012 10:09PM

Aaronic Priesthood ordination yes..don't know if that's when the masturbation questions start or not, may be at 14, it is when the interviews begin though...

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Posted by: Lost ( )
Date: April 15, 2012 10:13PM

My guess is that this "ordination" is really an interview that occurs at 12 for a young boy who is graduating from primary and going into the Aaronic Priestood as a Deacon.

Bishops are notorious (and this does vary from Bishop to Bishop mind you) for asking probative personal questions concerning the sexual history of an adolesent when interviewing them for Priestood, Camp, Youth Conference, etc. Some will come right out and ask if the youth masterbates.

Its is an apalling practice considering that they should only be asking if the youth keeps the law of chastity.

I can't imagine why nobody in mormon church leadership fails to see anything wrong with an adult male asking a minor child these kinds of questions, one on one, behind closed doors.

It's abusive and wrong.

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Posted by: nonamekid ( )
Date: April 15, 2012 10:22PM

At age 12 he would be ordained a deacon. There would be an interview with the bishop prior to that to determine "worthiness". Whether or not he would be asked about masturbation really depends on the bishop.

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Posted by: Heltz ( )
Date: April 16, 2012 01:00AM

Thanks for the info. I can't imagine the poor kid going through that. He seems to be rather shy and nonconfrontational. I hope the silliness lives up to the hype for him.

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Posted by: slatheredtwice ( )
Date: April 16, 2012 02:23PM

I was ordained one week following my convert baptism and was not interviewed at all. I think the first time the big "M" question was asked was prior to my ordination as a Priest. That would be in 1958.

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Posted by: imalive ( )
Date: April 16, 2012 02:39PM

Wow. That posting is just way over-the-top arrogant! O_o

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: April 16, 2012 05:46PM

A true "friend" would not word an invitation like is rude and disrespectful and you can tell him I told you so....I for one would stay away.

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Posted by: Stunted ( )
Date: April 16, 2012 06:20PM

It sounds like this was a general invitation spread by a blog post rather than an invitation sent directly to you personally. That changes things. It sounds like he was just trying to be funny and to TBMs it probably worked.

However, if this had been the text of an invitation sent directly to you then Wow, what a Dick Faced, Arrogant Prick.

I would suggest an RSVP along these lines:

Thanks for the kind invitation. Rather than trying to think of an excuse to miss the ordination, I'm trying to think of a good excuse to actually attend. I came up empty so don't expect me.

Thanks anyway,


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