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Posted by: katherine ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 05:05PM

Anybody have songs that hit home with being an ex mo?
I'm not completely out yet (still living at home)
but I have some songs that help me understand things

Bleeders - the Wallflowers
Justify - Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
Holy Rollers for Love - Jakob Dylan
Foolish - MxPx
Invisible City - the Wallflowers
Only a Pawn in their Game - Bob Dylan
Murder 101 - Wallflowers
Wake up - Arcade Fire

just a thought :)

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Posted by: music ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 05:12PM

I was ten years behind, but I felt like I was a decade behind in my life, so it was perfect. Also Nirvana's Nevermind. 100% therapeutic.

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Posted by: bummy ( )
Date: December 14, 2010 12:21AM

music Wrote:
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> I was ten years behind, but I felt like I was a
> decade behind in my life, so it was perfect. Also
> Nirvana's Nevermind. 100% therapeutic.


I agree with Pretty Hate Machine.. specifically "Terrible Lie".

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Posted by: nalicea ( )
Date: December 14, 2010 03:51AM

Yup, Terrible Lie is one I specifically put up on FB for all my TBM family to see. I was hoping that they would get some sort of message.

I was really content with my decision to leave the church and I still am, but the shunning, favoritism, and other garbage is what brings out the most sadness and anger. That song wraps up how I feel very nicely.

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Posted by: NoToJoe ( )
Date: December 16, 2010 08:07AM

"Minority" (by Green Day)

I want to be the minority
I don't need your authority
Down with the moral majority
'Cause I want to be the minority

I pledge allegiance to the underworld
One nation under dark
There of which I stand alone
A face in the crowd
Unsung, against the mold
Without a doubt
Singled out
The only way I know

I want to be the minority
I don't need your authority
Down with the moral majority
'Cause I want to be the minority

Stepped out of the line
Like a sheep runs from the herd
Marching out of time
To my own beat now
The only way I know

One light, one mind
Flashing in the dark
Blinded by the silence of a thousand broken hearts
"For crying out loud" she screamed unto me
A free for all
Fuck 'em all
You are your own sight

I want to be the minority
I don't need your authority
Down with the moral majority
'Cause I want to be the minority

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueE6z01uHsE

Living in Utah I am definitely in the minority!

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Posted by: jolene ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 05:57PM

Here are a few on my list lately:

Dear God 2.0 by The Roots on How I Got Over
Changing by The Moondoggies on Don't Be a Stranger
Theologians* and Hell is Chrome by Wilco on A Ghost is Born
Stranger by Dr. Dog on Shame Shame
Where is my Mind by The Pixies on Wave of Mutiliation
Are You Free by The Mother Hips on Pacific Dust


*If you only listen to one song on this list, this is it!

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Posted by: rambo ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 06:26PM

"Not afraid" by Eminem

Here are some lyrics.

"I'm not afraid to take a stand
Everybody come take my hand
We'll walk this road together, through the storm
Whatever weather, cold or warm
Just let you know that, you're not alone
Holla if you feel that you've been down the same road

(Bridge)

And I just can't keep living this way
So starting today, I'm breaking out of this cage
I'm standing up, Imma face my demons
I'm manning up, Imma hold my ground
I've had enough, now I'm so fed up
Time to put my life back together right now"

Or "One Step Closer" By Linkin Park

"Everything you say to me
Takes me one step closer to the edge
And I'm about to break
I need a little room to breathe
Cause I'm one step closer to the edge
I'm about to break

I find the answers aren't so clear
Wish I could find a way to disappear
All these thoughts they make no sense
I find bliss in ignorance
Nothing seems to go away
Over and over again"

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Posted by: ExMormonRon ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 06:33PM

Jimmy Buffet's "Why Don't We Get Drunk and Screw", words to live by.

Ron

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Posted by: Charley ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 09:15PM

I thought Jerry Jeff Walker did that song.

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: December 16, 2010 01:09PM

Buffett wrote the song- both performed it. BTW Jerry Jeff & Buffett were room mates in FL. Both have the same ballad style writing-one beach, one cowboy outlaw.
Also- Jimmy Buffett showed up at JJW's 60th B'day bash in Austin (should've been there Ron)

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Posted by: Raptor Jesus ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 06:36PM

But anything by Tool is like having a unicorn shit a rainbow of love into your brain.

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Posted by: wine country girl ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 07:13PM

He had alot to say. He had alot of nothing to say. We'll miss him. So long. We wish you well. You told us how you weren't afraid to die. Well then, so long. Don't cry. Or feel too down. Not all martyrs see divinity. But at least you tried. Standing above the crowd he had a voice that was strong and loud. We'll miss him. Ranting and pointing his finger at everything but his heart. We'll miss him. No way to recall what it was that you had said to me, Like I care at all. So loud. You sure could yell. You took a stand on every little thing and so loud. Standing above the crowd, he had a voice so strong and loud and I swallowed his façade cuz I'm so eager to identify with someone above the ground, someone who seemed to feel the same, someone prepared to lead the way, with someone who would die for me. Will you? Will you now? Would you die for me? Don't you fuckin' lie. Don't you step out of line. Don't you fuckin lie. You've claimed all this time that you would die for me. Why then are you so surprised to hear your own eulogy? You had alot to say. You had alot of nothing to say. Come down. Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr. To ascend you must die. You must be crucified for your sins and your lies. Goodbye...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/13/2010 07:14PM by wine country girl.

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Posted by: Raptor Jesus ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 07:19PM

Choices always were a problem for you.
What you need is someone strong to guide you.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.
What you need is someone strong to guide you.
Like me. Like me. Like me. Like me.
If you want to get your soul to heaven.
Trust in me now don't you judge or question.
You are broken now but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.
What you need is someone strong to guide you.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.
Let me lay my holy hand (uh), hand upon you.
My gods' will becomes me. When he speaks, he speaks through me.
He has needs. Like I do. We both want to rape you.
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life now.
Open my eyes, blind me with your light now.
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life now.
Open my eyes, blind me with your light now.
If you want to get your soul to heaven.
Trust in me now don't you judge or question.
You are broken now, but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life now.
Open my eyes, blind me with your light now.
Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life now.
Open my eyes, blind me with your light now.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.
Let me lay my holy hand upon you.
My gods' will becomes me. When he speaks, he speaks through me.
He has needs. Like I do. We both want to rape you.

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Posted by: PR ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 06:54PM

Killing in the Name by Rage Against the Machine

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Posted by: Marco Torres ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 06:55PM

That sounds more like faith promoting there. You could be Danite material....

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Posted by: MikeyA ( )
Date: December 14, 2010 05:46AM


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Posted by: spooge ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 07:12PM

Shut Up - Blink-182
Shut Up - Simple Plan

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Posted by: Charley ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 07:24PM

Why Don't We Do It In The Road? by the Beatles.

Guerrilla Radio by Rage Against The Machine.

I'm The Slime by Frank Zappa. I think this one's about BYU TV. "I'm the slime oozin' out from your tv set."

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Posted by: Timothy ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 10:01PM

Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXOyKmH2_NI

Yeah, baby!

Timothy

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Posted by: anon ( )
Date: December 13, 2010 10:58PM

The lead singer was raised Mormon.

I know you asked for music but this poem by Mary Oliver is also excellent for following your own truth. It's the best.

Mary Oliver - The Journey


One day you finally knew
what you had to do, and began,
though the voices around you
kept shouting
their bad advice—
though the whole house
began to tremble
and you felt the old tug
at your ankles.
"Mend my life!"
each voice cried.
But you didn't stop.
You knew what you had to do,
though the wind pried
with its stiff fingers
at the very foundations,
though their melancholy
was terrible.
It was already late
enough, and a wild night,
and the road full of fallen
branches and stones.
But little by little,
as you left their voices behind,
the stars began to burn
through the sheets of clouds,
and there was a new voice
which you slowly
recognized as your own,
that kept you company
as you strode deeper and deeper
into the world,
determined to do
the only thing you could do—
determined to save
the only life you could save.

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Posted by: mtnmdwcookiemonster ( )
Date: December 14, 2010 12:32AM

Live- I Alone and others

Talking Heads

Metallica- With Your Crown Came Nothing, Unforgiven, God that Failed (great one)

Rush- my mind is not for rent, to any god or government

Bad Religion

Dust in the Wind



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Posted by: CA girl ( )
Date: December 14, 2010 12:45AM

Losing My Religion by REM

It's My Life by Bon Jovi

Ordinary World by Duran Duran

Suddenly I See by K.D. Tunstall

Home by Daughtry

Rainbow in the Dark by Dio

Let It Be by the Beatles

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Posted by: Just Browsing ( )
Date: December 14, 2010 01:13AM

I will always remember Deanie (sp) the dreaded sinlge adult.. She had a "voice" and true harmony.. With her telling her single adult stories, it helped with the healing process.

Although I have recently moved into light classical or light opers. Calms the nerves and soothes the troubled heart..
Examples
Flower Duet --from Lakme by Debliss
Redetski March --Strauss

JB

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Posted by: 6 iron ( )
Date: December 14, 2010 01:40AM

This song represents the anger I feel sometimes towards the church. They usually censor out the last chorus for the radio where he is yelling more than singing.


"Down With The Sickness"

Can you feel that?
Ah, shit

Drowning deep in my sea of loathing
Broken your servant I kneel
(Will you give in to me?)
It seems what's left of my human side
Is slowly changing in me
(Will you give in to me?)

Looking at my own reflection
When suddenly it changes
Violently it changes (oh no)
There is no turning back now
You've woken up the demon in me

[Chorus:]
Get up, come on get down with the sickness [x3]
Open up your hate, and let it flow into me
Get up, come on get down with the sickness
You mother get up come on get down with the sickness
You fucker get up come on get down with the sickness
Madness is the gift, that has been given to me

I can see inside you, the sickness is rising
Don't try to deny what you feel
(Will you give in to me?)
It seems that all that was good has died
And is decaying in me
(Will you give in to me?)

It seems you're having some trouble
In dealing with these changes
Living with these changes (oh no)
The world is a scary place
Now that you've woken up the demon in me

[Chorus]

(And when I dream) [x4]
No mommy, don't do it again
Don't do it again
I'll be a good boy
I'll be a good boy, I promise
No mommy don't hit me
Why did you have to hit me like that, mommy?
Don't do it, you're hurting me
Why did you have to be such a bitch
Why don't you,
Why don't you just fuck off and die
Why can't you just fuck off and die
Why can't you just leave here and die
Never stick your hand in my face again bitch
FUCK YOU
I don't need this shit
You stupid sadistic abusive fucking whore
How would you like to see how it feels mommy
Here it comes, get ready to die

[Chorus (last line changed to "Madness has now come over me")]

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Posted by: Jobim ( )
Date: December 14, 2010 07:54AM

Wow... this song is REALLY disturbed. The people who wrote and sing this are really in pain... I wonder if they ever have peace of mind at all. It isn't healthy to keep reliving this kind of anger. I'm talking about the musicians, of course, because listening to this once in a while is perfectly understandable for people who went through abuse. But, what a striking difference from the Flower Duet, though... I do prefer uplifting music to forget my anger, instead of feeding it, and the Flower Duet is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. Perfect for making me want peace, instead of figthing.

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Posted by: chiefluma ( )
Date: December 16, 2010 06:59AM

Adam's road

is pretty good.....

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Posted by: get her done ( )
Date: December 16, 2010 12:28PM

oldies

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Posted by: runtu ( )
Date: December 16, 2010 12:34PM

I wrote about the loss of community that a person experiences when he or she leaves the LDS church. But the loss is much greater than that. Mormonism isn’t just a religion or a community; it is reality. By that I mean that when one is immersed in Mormonism, it explains everything about how the universe operates, so one sees the universe always through a Mormon interpretation. That may seem like an overstatement, and maybe it is for some people, but it wasn’t for me.

I once heard literary theorist Terry Eagleton complain that Margaret Thatcher’s government was trying to make certain thoughts “unthinkable.” I asked him after the lecture if that wasn’t the goal of most ideological systems, including his own Marxism. He said that I was probably right, but that it depended on what you were trying to render unthinkable. For me, and I suspect many others, the unthinkable thought was that Mormonism might not be true, after all. Mormonism was reality for me. If it wasn’t true, then nothing was real, at least not in the way I had structured my life.

When people recognize that they don’t believe anymore, the superstructure of reality around which they have based their lives collapses. They don’t know what is real, and they don’t know who they are. This is, needless to say, an incredibly humbling experience to admit that they don’t know what they thought they knew. But they’re not doing this alone; they’re still in the same world, with the same people, but they have no anchors.

It’s at this stage that a lot of people feel hurt and angry, both because they feel they’ve swallowed a big lie, but also because it’s next to impossible to explain how they’re feeling and why to their Mormon family and friends, who simply don’t understand the hurt or the anger. I’m reminded of a CD that I have had for many years. In one song, “Tramp the Dirt Down,” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BZIWSI5UQ&feature=related) Elvis Costello sings about his visceral hatred for Margaret Thatcher "I’d like to live long enough to savour, that when they finally put you in the ground I’ll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down.”

That song always mystified me because I couldn’t imagine being that angry towards another person, particularly one whom I didn’t know. But then I happened to hear it during those awful days of hurt and anger after my loss of faith, and some things resonated with me. One particular verse struck me:

Just like a schoolboy, whose head’s like a tin can
filled up with dreams then poured down the drain

That’s how many feel when they lose the church and the gospel. The dreams and goals and hopes of a life (mortal and eternal) within Mormonism are gone, poured down the drain. A friend told her husband that she was angry at him for “finding out the truth,” as it had changed everything in their lives: their dreams, their goals, their family, their marriage. It’s a devastating loss, no matter how loath some are to acknowledge that loss.

Reactions to one’s apostasy are pretty predictable. As some have said here, most people believe there is no valid reason for leaving the church, and by extension, there’s no valid reason for feeling hurt or loss or anger. And oddly enough, few people actually try to help the wayward soul regain his or her spiritual footing. When I went through this experience, the only person who really reached out to help me resolve my issues was Dan Peterson, and I appreciate that; unfortunately, by the time he offered I was too far into the anger stage. Maybe now that I’m out of that stage it would be a good time to talk.

But it’s natural that people who are hurting and angry and looking for support and, yes, validation, gravitate toward other people in the same situation who are often angry and hurt, too. And it’s natural to feel that anger after a loss; it’s part of the grieving process. But, like all stages of the grieving process, it must pass for people to heal. It does no one any good to wallow in anger. As I said yesterday, it’s never healthy to define yourself by what you are not. It’s important to be a person, not just an “ex-Mormon.” But it’s also not fair to hold up the angry and hurting as exemplifying the sum total of people’s experience after leaving the church. Most people move on, eventually, and even on the most virulent cesspools of hatred, most people post for a month or two, get over the anger, and move on with their lives.

So, no, this is not an attempt to justify anger. Anger is not a positive energy, contrary to John Lydon. It is what it is, and it is understandable. And if we understand why people are hurt and angry, we might actually be able to help them. As staccato mentioned, there is a lot of compassion and kindness around, and it’s not totally absent from any community.

In the end, you have to move on and walk away. I would imagine that Elvis Costello isn’t still seething with hatred for Margaret Thatcher 23 years later, and I doubt very much that he’ll visit her grave when she dies, much less tramp the dirt down. It takes some time, but you eventually walk way. You don’t forget what you’ve experienced, but you don’t stew in it. It would be nice to say as Elvis did

Well I hope you live long now, I pray the Lord your soul to keep
I think I’ll be going before we fold our arms and start to weep

Let someone else tramp the dirt down.

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Posted by: Tristan-Powerslave ( )
Date: December 16, 2010 12:48PM

Edguy - 'King Of Fools' (On the live album/concert that was recorded & filmed in Brazil, the lead singer Tobi said that this song was about idiots & assholes, & proceeded to ask the Brazilian audience if there were any idiots in Brazil. LMAO)

What do you think when you spit in my face
How does if feel to accuse and to haze
Now look at me, I'm not one of your kind
And I prefer to stay behind
And walk the wicked way

We don't wanna be like you
We don't get than king of fools
We don't mind your life is trite
You are the king of fools.

We are never gonna be like you
We don't follow - King of fools
You're the blind to lead the blind
And I walk the wicked way

You feel at ease as you flock with the masses
What do you see with your heads in their asses
Keep on railing at what I believe
Call me insane and I am proud to be
And walk the wicked way

We don't wanna be like you
Don't you get than king of fools
We don't mind your life is trite
You are the king of fools

We're not gonna be like you
We don't follow - King of fools
You are the blind to lead the blind - oh

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Posted by: seymour ( )
Date: December 16, 2010 02:08PM

"Given to Fly" by Pearl Jam

He could have tuned in, tuned in, but he tuned out.
A bad time nothing could save him.
Alone in a corridor, waiting, locked out.
He got up outta there ran for hundreds of miles.
He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree.
The wind rose up set him down on his knee.
A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw.
Deliver him wings, "Hey look at me now!"
Arms wide open with the sea as his floor.
Oh, power, oh. He's flying whole. High, wide, oh.

He floated back down cause he wanted to share.
This key to the locks, on the chains, he saw everywhere.
But first he was stripped, and then he was stabbed by faceless men.
Well fuckers, he still stands.
And he still gets his love he just gives it away.
The love he receives is the love that is saved.
And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky.
A human being that was given to fly.
I'm flying, oh. High flying, oh.
He's flying, oh. High, oh, oh.

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