that he didn't have a testimony when he went on his mission!!

So much for RAISING THE BAR.

Sorry, but he went before they raised the bar.

I think Gordon B. Hinckley "raised the bar" like a decade ago now (or even less), and the GAs clearly aren't in their 20s or early 30s. :D

It proves that hypocracy is alive and well in the Mormon church. You're OK if you act like you're supposed to, to heck with actual principles and beliefs.

He said that? OMG....that is unreal. I guess it is because some of the 19 yr. olds are saying they don't think they should go on a mission because they dont' have a testimony....so he tells them this and then all they'd hear is "GA so and so didn't either".....warning - don't use that as your excuse anymore. Such manipulation!!!

A testimony of the LDS Gospel is our greatest posession.

A mission is a Priesthood duty as of Saturday.

If you are lacking a testimony, you can find one while on your mission.

At any rate, we know that once people put in their two years in service to the church, their personal sacrifice and the shame of failure will have been too great to simply walk away from the church.

Yes, never mind a testimony now, you can have it whan you get back. Now get busy packing.

What exactly do you need a testimony of anymore?

This is the era of "I don't know that we teach that." A testimony that one does what the leaders say is sufficient.

So to go on a mission you have to go through the temple, which entails making lifetime commitments and promises. And it's ok to do this without a testimony? What?!

Yeah, how would one be allowed to go in the temple without a testimony??? Oh, it is the promise to pay that is what they
are after....a testimony...not so much.

Shouldnt you believe in god and the church before you are awarded the melkezdick preiesthood.

They just give that priesthood anyone I guess

Except girls.

Cultic Mormonism discourages - strongly - being authentic and communicating the truth if it's not congruent with what the Morg believes is 'right' and 'faith-promoting.' It 'programs' people to become strangers to their true Self.

A Mormon without a 'testimony' could not, in good conscience, respond to the temple recommend questions in a way that would result in a TR being issued. For a long time, the TR questions have included: "Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?"

Clearly, the GA was not truthful. In microcosm, he did what the LDS Church has done - at the macro level worldwide - for almost eight generations now: mislead.

The two are well-suited to each other.

Hmm.. So why did Monson not go on a mission?

From The Age of Reason, by Thomas Paine: "Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what [one] does not believe."

From Boyd K. Packer: "A testimony is found in the bearing of it."

Anyone who finds his grasp of the difference between a noble soul and a gutless, vapid, punk-ass bitch a little tenuous need only consult these two quotations.

but his daddy told him to stay in the saddle so he could be poised to collect the Hinckley LDS insider dividends. Gordy took his pappy's advice & rode it out to the very top of LDs inc. Gordon BS Hinckley still did not have a testimony when he was made prophet/PRofit,hence all his blabbering about faith, but Gordon loved the perks that he never would have had anywhere else. All he had to do was lie his foul ass off to get them!

Yea...interesting how he went through the temple w/o a "testimony." This would mean that he either lied in his interviews to get to the temple and on the mission, or the interviewer understood this and still found him worthy to enter the temple?? lol

Or he is lying now, just to trick young men into going on a mission.

When in fact, it is they who apparetnly DON'T believe ... and in a big way.