Can someone give me a reference for what ceremonies were practiced in the temple in Jeruselum, around the time of Christ?
Did they have any similarity to those in Mormon temples?

Thanks for your help.

Animal sacrifices. They used several different kinds of animals for different things.Leviticus (possibly my least favorite book in the OT)tells all the different sacrifices, their uses and the exact way to kill and bleed the animals.It's pretty gruesome.The blood was used for one purpose the fat for another and the flesh was burned save the priest's portion which he and his family ate.That's all I remember.You can bet your butt that it wasn't masonic rituals and garment wearing though.

Philipa sums it up pretty well. Let me add that the the temple was not publicly accessible. Only priests of a certain tribe were allowed in the temple. So, for sure there were no mandatory rituals performed inside of the temple that were required of everyone wishing to enter heaven.
Washing and anointing was a symbolic purifying and cleansing ritual performed outside of the temple just prior to entering.

The Jerusalem temple was basically a barbeque club for an elite few.

Brethren,adieu Wrote:

> The Jerusalem temple was basically a barbeque club
> for an elite few.


spot on!

I can't go to their heaven, cuz I'm vegetarian...

Modern Jews are very progressive. I'm sure they'd let you spill the blood of a cabbage, or burn the fat off an eggplant. Ask around.

Mr. Neutron Wrote:
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> Modern Jews are very progressive. I'm sure they'd
> let you spill the blood of a cabbage, or burn the
> fat off an eggplant. Ask around.


lawlz heheh...

If god hadn't meant for us to eat meat he wouldn't have made them so tasty! Yeah pretty sweet gig the priests had. Make people feel like shit about stuff they do and then get them to give you free meat to make themselves feel better.

Yeah, Mormons love to allude to the idea that the LDS endowment ceremony was somehow practiced back then, but they fail to provide any real evidence.

try this http://www.templemount.org/

here's another http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/portrait/temple.html

and one more http://www.jewfaq.org/qorbanot.htm



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/25/2013 02:15PM by jw the inquizzinator.

The endowment derived from the Masons who derived from the Templars. There is no connection between the ceremonies practiced in the old Israelite temple and the endowment.

There is, however, a connection between the endowment/Freemasonry and the history of Solomon's temple. The Templars' main job was to preserve and promote the contemporary Solomon's temple. When they were treacherously denounced by the Pope, they invented a pageant depicting their former glory and subsequent fall from favor. This ritual centered around Solomon's temple and their former gloried status as its protector. These ceremonies were performed under the strictest secrecy. Part of the ceremony was the transmission of passwords and handshakes, along with reminders of the fates that awaited them if the authorities ever found them out. It was all secret because they had a price on their heads, dead or alive. Mostly dead.

As Templarism adopted the forms of Freemasonry, they mimicked the pattern of medieval trade guilds, which included periodical ceremonial recitations of their crafts' noble traditions and accomplishments, such as their participation in this or that significant historical events. Solomon's temple was a natural for medieval real masons and thus for Freemasons as well.

Thus there are two connections between the history of Solomon's temple and the endowment.

There are no connections between the rites of Solomon's temple and the endowment.

There are also no connections bewteen the endowment and the ceremonies of the Templars prior to their fall from grace. They had no secret rites or secret knowledge or secret anything before that. That all came about after, and was purely and simply a way to hide their great secret. What was their great secret? The grand and glorious secret, which has given rise to endless speculation, animus and Dan Brown novels, was their names and addresses. That's it. They were normal humans doing what normal humans at any time and place would do.

BTW, it seems that a major factor in the survival of the Templar tradition was homosexuality. You heard right. The king of England at the time of the pope's edict was more interested in playing with his boyfreinds than chasing down a bunch of knights who had never done him any harm. This interlude allowed the Templars in England to survive after all their fellows on the continent had been slaughtered. And where did they go? They set up their networks just over the border, in Scotland, which at the time was at war with England and were therefore willing to acccept any and all refugees who might be on their side. This should all start falling into place. Scottish rites? Where did that come from ? See above.

Most of the above comes from "Born in Blood", by John Robinson.

I am watching Braveheart for the first time with DH tonight and after reading this I'm curious if it is the same time period.

I think it's pretty amazing that there is any "history of Solomon's temple" at all, considering that there is absolutely no evidence that it ever even existed.

Kinda like the "history" of the temple of Nephi, or other temples Judaic or Christian, from the BOM.

I thought that this was going to be a thread about pagan temples. :(

archytas Wrote:
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> I thought that this was going to be a thread about
> pagan temples. :(

I'm fairly certain that any temples and temple rites present
among the pre-exile Israelites would have looked very "pagan"
to our observation -- essentially Canaanite and Moabite/Edomite
shrines with similar goings-on.

The second temple, later enhanced under Herod's rule, would
have also looked and smelled more or less pagan. If we could
observe the rituals and furnishings, a few things might be
reminiscent of how we moderns imagine the Mosaic religion to
have been -- but, for the most part, I suppose it would all
seem very foreign and "pagan."

Too bad that today's Mormons cannot be put through some
sort of computerized, virtual 2000-year-old temple experience.
That might impact at least a few of the LDS numbskulls.

UD

The last time I saw my brother he was studiously reading a book on the temple rites and their connection to the "old" temple--I sooooo wanted to sneak away the thing and see what BS was within that he was highlighting and notating...

Where did the ancient Jews get all the polyester and felt to make their sacred clothing from?

there are still modern day witches that use the moon and sun to calculate ritual days. I wouldn't mess with any of them.