While fresh in my aussie mind,the explisive account of paygayale's articals that took me hours to read all of them
at once, this USA sweet man, His beautifal mother and father
all that they went through, the coincidences that spoke a volumes that their is a loving god far beond the kind of
dicriminating fake one of mormonism, has given great hope
even for us australian, now ex lds, who have stories to tell
also. Tho one thing australia is known for is its harsh
brutal upbringing as children, an emotional dead culture
at least in my era from 1960 when I was born. I just never
got an ounce of love shown toward me the way paygayale's
beautifal family showed him,that always made me wonder
when serving a mission in nevada USA back in 84, how
emotional,loving even the most down and out begger on the
street, addicts to gambling,drugs,sex etc, seem sweet children
of god to me compared to my australian dog culture.

I hated australian culture so much, especially growing up
neigbours to nazi racist mormons,and their racist commonistic
wifes, who became best friends with my australian temple wife
only to eventually lead to temple devoice,let alone threatened during a time from mixing the australian bloodline with asians
or blacks etc. I mentioned if their was a mormon black negro
prophet what would this nazi movement do, and the answer
was only then, they would want to act to assisinate him
and go totally against the church. They even admitted the
lds church was a great breeding ground to birth vonerable
even gay type mormons,to be brainwashed to accept white
supremecy and with suttle mind controlling power,damage
and destroy asian to black man from within, without having
to put a bullet in them, unless necessary of course.

I was discusted with how such terrorism, like the 19th century
racist danites, who killed in the name of Brigham young
any who apostate or went against him, such groups simuler
existed today in the lds church, just like marfia in the
catholic church...

My story can be read in this location site page,titled
hypocracy in mormonism that had me face near death terror
and destruction of my beautifal asian wife and family
to the bishop who was the last straw, that terminated me
from even attending the church, just after got re-proval
for baptism while living overseas, but rejected in Perth
Dianella temple stake ward/western australia.

This pigdog bishop who heard my story of terror showed
no compassion just as some bishops would spare no love
or hug toward gays,but throw salt on their wounds and
send them on their way.

While lieing in the gutter as a drug addict,after all
the word of wisdom keeping, and seemed to be the case
more attacked and considered not to fit into mormonism
but when secretly broke the word of wisdom not telling
the leaders, I would get away with compliments of told
the spirit was with me, and even served in callings
as the drugs to pre-sribed medications,both triggered the
other, that had more power over me than man himself, that
no leader could intiminate me while on these drugs, that
allowed me to serve better in the lds church even in marrige.

However I want rave on about me, tho just like to thank
paygayales articals that gave hope,and how much I felt
of gods love in those articals. I have not one mormon
I can turn to, all who betrayed me even my best friends.

Only ex mormons on this site mostly all have shown kindness
except a few athiests but as my own parents are athiests
I understand where they are comming from also..

blessings to you paygayale and thankyou for the courage
for posting these articals. may you life be richly blessed
even tho mormon teachings, the most discriminating off all
may promise in marrige even with a loving guy, same sex
terrestial glory but never celestial, be it known that
the charactor of god within us, through the love of intimacy
not abuse will determond those 3 degrees of charactor and
heaven for all believers in a loving god, who may well turn
out to be a christian god, but certainly not a racist,nazi
discriminating angry bastard god,that can take his book
of mormon and shove it up his ass, unless the book was
of god, but the lds church messed it all up,as the prophets
contradicted the book of mormon,disagreed with one another
and the bible says true prophets are in harmony with one another... NOt mormon prophets.

Brigham Young was an asshole in my eyes with his racist
against negro beliefs to his adam was god/father of jesus
and his notion that poligimany was the most popular thing
in heaven, and we needed to be married to woman,and more
if cival law allowed it to get to heaven, is so preverted.
Yet a love,same sex if totally faithful, intimate, loving
kind, in marrige should be denied the fullness of heaven
then all those wonderful loving connections and even the
spirit felt in your articals paygayale, was considered
in vain by the mormon god, who would want to be in that heaven if it was true, an asshole god of mormonism..

I know the bible says according to many mainstream christians
that its not about feelings but about conviction and doing
the right thing and to hell with kindness toward gays,let
alone those evil relief society woman that came to your
mothers place and pocketing and sifting stuff, without
any compassionate regard for the sickness and hell your
parents was going through let alone yourself..

My friend, the lds church had almost led me to suicide
even murder...I'm glad your heart has softened and your
are happily married to Jeremeny.(forgive me if spelt wrong)
I now know why mormonism can send one to hell, because
the abuse we take in that church, can harden our hearts
if we are aware that it is abuse, tho the lucky ones
who have intelligence of a pea who go along with all its
white wash, make it through, tho will be accountable just
like my nazi enemies of the church, who are not a christians
bootlace in the end..

Your are a beautifal person,and never let any church or
person take away your personal and private intimacy as
you walk the path alone spiritually with your inner conviction
for relegion can save no one, not even with all its pagen
rituals for the dead, for the dead are concious of nothing
the bible says, no spirit world, no pre-existance,no soul
except the soul we give life and meaning. Living in the bubble
of dicriminating mormonism, is superficial and heartless
and they miss the boat the way the lds leaders treated your
mother, family and you....

Shame on mormonism... Those dead in christ rise not the bible
says have nothing to do with pagen temple rituals, tho more
the meaning that those who are trapped in dead relegion
and dead god, need to be reborn, into unconditional love
and come to know the real jesus who as far as I'm concerned
despite all its pagen holy temple rituals is a dead god
as much as the dead who are burried in the grave, who
do not need to become mormon to be saved...

all will be resurrected, the saved immortal who hearts
and minds are intimate and filled with love for the real
jesus, who do not discriminate, abuse etc, and those
who in or out of the lds church who are the abusers
and abusers to murderers from the inside to the outside
some who think they worship the real jesus, and in the
only true church, will find themselfs along with the
vile and wicked abusers like your friend Bill, who rapped
you, no matter gay or not, he was a monster and if not
repent will pay for it here-after what he did to you,
will be found resurrected MORTAL again only to die the
second death and cease to exist for eternity..

No 3 degrees of glory. Just 3 degrees of gods charactor
maybe, and all found unworthy filled with abuse and discimination to murder will not have gods charactor sealed
up by the holyghost apon their forheads, and will not
exist in some lower degree for eternity for our soul is
in our intimacy evolution and if the lds church kills that
it is the devils plan and the devil's churches do just that
and mormonism with all its gates of hell crush down apon it
not because its true but because its NOT TRUE.
The bible says the true church is protected and the gates
of hell does not crush down apon it. The lds church says
that churches that dont suffer up like lds are luke warm
and satin has won the battle...

go to or continue to worship our lord in a church that
does not discriminate against gay, mental illness and depression as I have suffered like your mother, and
a false church that breeds racists,terrorists such as
mormonism in all its judgmental doctrines from hell
discuised like wolfs in sheep clothing, and temple masonary
robes, and secret handshakes to get to heaven,

to hell, I command in the true jesus name, against this
and say unto oneself dear all ex mormons and those who
are trying to escape the clutches of the hellish white
wash empire of lds, YOU HAVE NO POWER OVER ME.
Say that to your leaders and see them depart with their
tails between their legs. I did it when intoxicated tho
wished I had said it sober and would if given another chance.

The monster bishop Tim Masson of perth/Dianella temple stake
ward went directly on to become stake president god forbid.

I knew then that the god of mormonism was a monster
supporter of monsters as Tim Mason and all the members that
followed this filthy stinking rags of righousness of a man
that showed no compasion, a lawer by profession rather than
a loving priest, a man who one could see his own wife never
smiled, drained to serve him,living under bondage to his
dictates of rightousness and discrimination and no mercy
for sin or so called sin.

Therefor in conclusion all I can say firstly in support to
the real jesus of christianity, compared to mormons is this.

christians catch the fish first and christ cleans them.
Mormons clean the fish first,(in stinking filthy rags of
rightousness and perfection, after all ye can do saved by grace mocking grace is sufficent for now) and the devil
catches them...

The good samariton that stopped to help me while I lay
in a ditch,taken to drugs, while a modern levite mormon
priest walked on by ignoring me to get to the temple throwing salt in my wounds, the hypocrite he was, the next bishop named TURNER of Dinella stake who also ignored my cries,all stuck
in their self-rightousness and letting my family fall apart
and split up then as soon as hear I was seperated, leaders
mainly relief society sisters turn up, to try to interfere,
and drag my dieing wife back to church now that she is not
living with a man who was attacked by nazi mormons as if
I was the terrorist, rather than victim, but as to not
rock the boat, my ill fate for knowing the nazies no matter
if I'm rightous or not, and some who held priesthood callings
I had to be silenced from blowing the whistle and removed
from mormonnism as Nazies are more accepted than gay in
this church, hard hearted murdering white supremest bastards
get more respect than gays..

Shame on mormonism, a most dangerous, and damaging yet
most succesful surviving evil suttle cult in modern history.

Larry.... Perth Western australia.