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4 years ago
mobegone
It has been many years since I have borne my testimony on these boards. Yea, we used to have glorious testimony bearing contests on these boards. But then everyone got offended and stopped. Or I can only assume they got offended, it's the only reason anyone would stop bearing their testimony. So I would be remiss if I did not bear my testimony today. I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt,
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4 years ago
mobegone
I was thinking. Mormons always talk about how people leave because they're offended. And how being offended is the problem of the person who is offended. How it's a choice to be offended. And how you should have chosen not to be offended. But then when they find out you drink beer now, they're offended. When they find out you drink coffee now they're offended. When they find out yo
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4 years ago
mobegone
It's been a good long while since I've posted here. What I'm about to say may resonate with some of you, may not make sense to some of you, may offend others, but please just take this as my own personal feelings and experience. "The Church" took a lot away from me and recovery has been and continues to be hard. Even having been out for 20 years now, growing up in "the church&
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8 years ago
mobegone
So my wife, who has always had a very level head about why the Morg is a festering pile of crap, is totally going off the deep end. My wife has this cousin who, in simple terms, is genuinely bat-$#%* crazy. She has become obsessed with some "Christian" movement that purports to have numerous prophecies about the impending end of the world and how we're all going to die horrific ap
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8 years ago
mobegone
I said FAIRLY benign. Compare it to the D&C and POGP. Big difference. You still gotta be just a bit weird and different or you're just another Christian sect. Big whoop.
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8 years ago
mobegone
Give me a time machine and let me go back to 1830-ish. If I can convince Joseph Smith of a few things, I think Mormonism could be one of the largest religions in the word. 100 million members, minimum. The first and most important thing would be to convince him that if he could temper his thirst for power and sex, he could live to 90 instead of 40-something, and ultimately have a lot more po
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8 years ago
mobegone
http://ldsliving.com/story/79137-new-member-has-tattoos-cut-out-so-he-can-serve-a-mission http://www.missiongeek.net/2015/06/new-member-cuts-out-tattoos-to-serve-mission/ Long story short, dude gets tattoo on his neck (nothing vulgar whatsoever) and then years later decides he wants to serve a mission. Mission application declined because of tattoo. Dude goes and has it cut out and now
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9 years ago
mobegone
Would be a good name for a band. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome THE TENDER MERCIES!!!! That is all.
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9 years ago
mobegone
Yeah, definitely no fun. I don't get it. The weird/ wacky/ deep doctrine stuff may have been nuts - but it was sure a lot more fun to spend Sunday school taking about Kolob, becoming a god, and the secret alters that had been found in Adam-Ondi-Ahman than spending yet another week listening to correlated pray-pay-obey nonsense. And I remember doing lots of fun stuff growing up, some of my best
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9 years ago
mobegone
Maybe you could suggest to the parents that they have the child blessed at a church that isn't a cult. I'm sure great-grandpa would be thrilled to hear that the baby was being blessed at the Methodist church instead.
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9 years ago
mobegone
When I was a Mormon I always heard about how inspired the founding fathers were, and how they founded the USA so that the truth could be restored. Yay, George Washington! Hooray, Thomas Jefferson! Yippee, John Adams! Oh wait, except there's that pesky ol' 12th Article of Faith: "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustai
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9 years ago
mobegone
I speak for myself only of course, but I suspect that this is true of some others on here too. I recently had a conversation with a family member wherein I was told that people who have left "the church" need to just keep their mouths shut about it, as it is apparently disrespectful to be saying negative things about someone else's faith. What I was essentially told was that if you
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9 years ago
mobegone
In the spirit of the new essays, TSCC has decided to be more honest with its primary children as well. This is to be accomplished through rewording of the primary songs. The first will soon be released.... I LOVE TO SEE THE TEMPLE I love to see the temple I'm going there someday To feel some naked touching And learn some cool handshakes For the temple is a special place Where we wear
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9 years ago
mobegone
Tal, Flying Spaghetti Monster is the greatest, and Sam Harris is his prophet. I'd think twice before criticizing such an important figure in the Church of Atheism.... you can see the predictable responses from the faithful.
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9 years ago
mobegone
You obviously are just a big anti-Mormon bigot. As we all know now, Brother Brigham was just speaking as a man at the time. Just like he was with the priesthood ban. And during the Mountain Meadows events. And for most of the Journal of Discourses. And in most of his conference talks. But he was a PROPHET. Well except for when he wasn't. But you should know when was which and which wa
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9 years ago
mobegone
Something about M. Russell Ballard rubs me the wrong way. Spent some time with Bednar once and he was actually pretty nice. (Though I hear plenty of other people have had a very different experience).
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9 years ago
mobegone
Great way for them to avoid the grandkids too.
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9 years ago
mobegone
We know that the plan of salvation, as taught by the Mormon church, actually required the fall of Adam - and that this fall was actually part of the plan. It also requires that each of us be given "free agency" and the ability to choose between what is right and what is wrong. All of this required both a savior and an entity that would try to entice us away from the path of righteousn
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9 years ago
mobegone
When you have to listen to multiple conversations about mormon god's one true church, "inspiring" stories about people who were converted away from other faiths.... and then commentary about how exmormons should just keep their mouths shut.
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9 years ago
mobegone
If you walk away from "the church", you need to just get over it and be quiet about it. Saying anything negative just means you are bitter. But "the church" is allowed to fund campaigns against any group they don't like, call other churches "the whore of the earth", and get in your face and preach their "gospel" to you whether you want to hear it or not
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9 years ago
mobegone
Getting ready to spend Thanksgiving with my TBM family. Been seeing lots of posts on facebook celebrating the whole "praise to the man even if he had 40 wives and boinked teenagers" thing. And I've been spending a lot of time thinking about the best way to respond to the facebook "friends" and to my family when the topic inevitably comes up. And then today I received my a
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9 years ago
mobegone
Thanks for the kind words.... appreciate the archive :)
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9 years ago
mobegone
Writing ballads apparently.
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9 years ago
mobegone
This is a story The story of Horny Joe He couldn't get his fill of lovin' The girls would just say no He tried and tried and wracked his brains To figure out a way To get the freshest meat in town Until one fine spring day - Horny Joe, Horny Joe He said he'd seen the lord Horny Joe, Horny Joe And an angel with a sword Horny Joe, Horny Joe That angel said "go do it!" Horn
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9 years ago
mobegone
LOL, I tried to fix it by editing the title of my original post, but it seems this sin is carrying forward regardless. Maybe I should write an essay trying to explain it away?
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9 years ago
mobegone
Just got to thinking about this. Post-essays (and even pre-essays), the big defense of Joe's behavior seems to be: "Hey look, these were just spiritual marriages". Fine, for the sake of argument I'll accept that premise. So wait, why did Joseph Smith need to spiritually marry other mens' wives? What is the point of that? Does it mean that in the eternities he is going to clai
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9 years ago
mobegone
For any of you Doubting Thomas's here, I can confirm that this crap happens. I went to the bishop to confess my sins with my then girlfriend. I subsequently ended up in a "court of love" where I was asked to recount what had happened sexually between her and I, and I mean I was asked for EXPLICIT details. I had always thought the bishopric were pretty good guys, and it was a shoc
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9 years ago
mobegone
"Hey honey, how would you feel if I told you I want to sleep with other women? Oh and that God will kill you if you won't let me?" Then if you're still alive you can refer her to a certain "revelation" to Emma in the D&C....
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9 years ago
mobegone
Would love to see the NYT publish that!
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9 years ago
mobegone
No one can speak to the STD question for sure, but neurosyphilis would certainly explain a lot....
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