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icanseethelight
Rather than hijack the post that inspired this rant, A new thread has appeared. Other than getting rid of his personal bugaboo "mormon" all of the recent "revelations"/changes are part of a years long plan to mainstream TCOJCOTDS into a mainline evangelical faith. It will be shortened to Jesusland or something else later. While I have written in the past about the cash
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15 days ago
icanseethelight
I was in the temple, trying to put a square peg in a round hole for the 100th time, and I just asked god if he gave a shit... god said no, then he quit talking to me altogether. It was glorious.
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4 months ago
icanseethelight
So.... From my perspective she overreacted to the porn, was spot on about the lying. This is what shame and guilt do. He admitted he had a "problem". The problem was he was a normal male in a repressed society. And this girl has a wildly oversimplified and naive view of life. Both are the result of years of brainwashing by a religion that seeks to control and financially
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4 months ago
icanseethelight
I just watched the new and improved temple ceremony. Women will definitely be getting the priesthood outside the temple, perhaps next month. The new wording also set up gay marriage, separating sealing from marriage, no garments outside the temple... They are skipping gen x and going after young millennial and gen z
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5 months ago
icanseethelight
slowly and take your husband with you. Introduce him to the essays on lds.org let him take the lead. Good luck.
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
When there is a comment where logic and reason absolutely renders everyone else speechless with its eloquent brilliance... ...or makes people uncomfortable and wanting to run away :)
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
As of now she still has not responded.... ... either she is in the throes of a faith crises, or searching for the feelings that will tell her I am wrong... I will update again when I hear from her. Which I will, eventually.
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
Thank you for that article!
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
Research until you understand completely the sunk cost fallacy. If you already know what this is, how did the understanding of it affect your decisions when deciding whether to stay married?
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
I was texting with a friend last night to see if she wanted to spar over the latest gaslighting (new essay's) dropped by the church. She was busy but gave her normal disclaimer statement of beliefs and asked why I don't just leave it alone. Instead of just letting it pass, I decided to challenge her statement of beliefs which were: 1. Joseph Smith saw god and god. I asked her why she be
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
I have a rule. I never lie to anyone that has not lied to me. Once you lie to me, all bets are off (and I am probably better at lying than you because TSCC taught me to lie so well :))
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
There is no one way to success. And success is not necessarily defined by your bank account. Anyone who says anything different is selling you something.
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
The funniest for me was they let "Losing My Religion" by REM and "More Than Words" by Extreme play at every dance in the 90's. No Jesus Jones songs because he was named Jesus though...
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
When talking to TBM's, or people who go to church for appearances I am happy to talk about any topic they bring up. But everyone I know is aware that the facts don't care about their feelings and until my wife is out, either of the church or of our marriage, I will share the facts eloquently and loudly with no regard for their feelings. My favorite topic is pointing out the obvious and fr
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
I will miss her. Her thoughts and how she stayed in a mixed faith marriage helped me off the ledge a couple of times.
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
Me either, although my frank conversations with my many TBM friends have not made it any easier for my DW to leave. The running joke with my wife's Stake Pres. is how the deck chair re-arranging is going on the Titanic that is the TSCC
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6 months ago
icanseethelight
https://medium.com/@marysnap/im-mary-snap-and-i-tracked-mike-norton-newnamenoah-at-the-lds-church-b9937127a071 I know this is an old article, but it is just sooooo creepy.
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8 months ago
icanseethelight
Further info, he hasn’t even read it, he has only read fairmormon’s rebuttal and he is still bothered. Lol.
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8 months ago
icanseethelight
Letter is blowing up testimonies. My brother is currently at the “it’s full of lies phase”. I told him to stop trying to prove it wrong until he has his wife up to speed on what he is doing and learning. The poor guy. He has been a super Mormon for years, I don’t know what is going to happen if his shelf collapses.
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8 months ago
icanseethelight
While I do not think they will increase tithing, I will tell you the church is definitely hurting for cash. Most of the "changes" that have been "revealed" in the past decade have been cash-flow related. Get more coming in and less going out. I think someone commented before, and I will concur, that they will put pressure on members to pay ahead in tithing if they want t
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8 months ago
icanseethelight
Artificial since 2010. Just gave away a $900 Pre lit 15’ tree when we downsized homes. Also gave away 18 storage boxes of ornaments and 4 6’ pre lit wreaths. Don’t miss any of it, but DW is miserable. We bought a 8’ LED pre lit tree this year that should last the rest of our lives. It’s beautiful.
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9 months ago
icanseethelight
Have you ever tried coding? It is not mysterious and can be really fun
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9 months ago
icanseethelight
Either works depending on the person :). But jesus-jumpers fall into two main extremes. The nice strangers that come up to you to make conversation, and then jump to talking about jesus. the actual charismatic church I went to once where people were jumping and flailing about. It was quite a show. Everyone else is just a jesus-hopper? But I like alliteration.
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9 months ago
icanseethelight
This. Any prophet who explains and justifies his prophecy and looks to add third party validation, does not believe the prophecy or in his ability to prophecy in the first place.
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9 months ago
icanseethelight
Lol, An colloquial expression used (mainly by me) to describe evangelical christians.
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9 months ago
icanseethelight
We had a non member come up and call us all assholes in a rambling 15 minute rant once. The member of the bishopric who let her rant said it was good to make people uncomfortable sometimes.
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9 months ago
icanseethelight
Thanks Angela. I know they are not. And I know she can only free herself. But there is more going on than I am willing to discuss even mostly anon that makes me believe the cracks are there. And I am cautiously optimistic. I have been down this road before. I just want her to see without the burlap sack. It is bright and beautiful.
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9 months ago
icanseethelight
Excerpt from the instructions accompanying the announcement to the leadership which can be found at: https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/multimedia/file/service-mission-letter.pdf "When the stake president is unsure if a candidate could serve a proselyting mission, he may discuss with the candidate the possibility of being called to a two-transfer mission,1 a service mission, or being h
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9 months ago
icanseethelight
The mission is...Hide mismanagement of tithing for as long as they can because when it comes how broke they are out lots of mormons be gone.
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9 months ago
icanseethelight
"In some cases, candidates will be honorably excused from any formal missionary service" This is the only sentence that mattered in the entire pronouncement. Because it makes not going on a mission non-shaming, and allow kids not going on missions to go to the temple sooner. The temple is the only place to enforce revenue. I predict 90% of all missions worldwide will be service mi
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