Given that the morg is carefully legalistic, perhaps the real reason behind declaring gay couples to be apostates, and not just sinful, is to prevent any mission creep toward letting legally married gay couples into the temple for weddings and sealings to their children. As more gays and lesbians come out and marry and occupy the same subdivisions, back-to-school-nights, and church pews as eve
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You probably wouldn't be ex'd; you'd be murdered!
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There is also this gem in the readers' comments, although Jennifer_LDS remains the star! From a reader named "Rational Investor: Christopher Hitchens once characterized organized religion as "immoral" by which he meant being indoctrinated from an early age to believe in a superior being that you had to fear and yet love unconditionally, that would cause or do things to you th
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Dieter seems to have charisma, which the others don't have much of. Not to be unkind.
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For the life of me I can't figure out why you would agree to meet with him at all, anytime, anywhere. He's a letch! And maybe worse! What would you advise a daughter in a situation like this. He's getting lots of mileage out of his calling for aiding in his stalking of you. Please give up the notion that people are "in authority" over you. and that you have to obey. The elaborate
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I hope it wakes her up too. I've followed her story for lo, these many years. I'm glad to know she's on the OW site!
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I feel bad for Kate and her family. They are no doubt feeling a lot of pain. People can be visionaries and still get stomped on, even if their arguments are valid, as Kate's and OW's probably are. Courageous visionaries feel compelled to try to right injustices despite the odds. The old men in SLC are unjust, but they own the game--for now.
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Ally says, "Keep sweet."
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Any sale has to be OK'd by the morg. Draw your own conclusions.
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He's probably writing even as we speak in some quiet place.
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For the long term well-being of your son, keep him away from the bishop and anybody he WILL tell (that's a given). Everybody goes through the rite of passage of having sex for the first time. How they do it, with whom, and when is their own business and their own private experience and for them to figure out the meaning of. Please talk to your son realistically about sexual experience, prot
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That neighbor sure revealed what's worrying her!
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Briggy says it for me! I will remember this one.
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You sound really really entangled with your mother. Therapy would be good for this. Please, have your own life!
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The happiest husbands are those who let themselves be influenced by their wives. So, wear the tie, but wear one that would have really pleased your deceased friend.
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Hey, welcome, Morrison! And welcome back! (Early!)
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What struck me when I listened to it was her wrapping so much of her rhetoric in the "Savior" as if Jesus were personally directing what the morg is doing. Case closed. How do you argue with that? I think she was preaching to the choir, not answering pertinent questions (until cornered).
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I applaud you! Excommunication seems like a badge of honor to me too, although I will not be stalking it 'cause I don't want to attend any church! ;)
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Beautiful, traditional weddings cannot be held in morg chapels. They aren't built for it. There is no center aisle or space up front for a wedding party to stand. It would be very awkward! I went to a chapel wedding about 50+ years ago in a Mormon chapel located in the mission field, so the couple was going to travel hundreds of miles to the temple for their sealing. The bride was escorted up
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You may have bigger issues than the weed. It seems like you are married, yet losing your connection with each other, through neglecting your friendship and/or handling conflict badly. Read Gottman: The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work. Seriously! Now!
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Yup! (And I don't get my buttons pushed.) ;)
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This is like Game of Thrones! You never know who's gonna get killed off next!
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This is a wise caution because the OP has presented a very complicated situation. However, your final statement sounds too morg-like to let pass. Lucy129837 is under NO obligation to do the "right thing" or to do it for the "right reason." Lucy is in the process of sorting out what she wants for her own life and how she will be better off. She is reaching out for assi
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Coffee enemas. Remember that story? ;)
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Poe's Law strikes again! Without a blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of extremism or fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing.
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Me too!
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OK. Got it! ;)
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Kate will not be facing "the firing squad alone" as the OP comments because she is being tried in absentia. So she won't even see the firing squad; it's more like snipers. According to the SLTrib, Kate and her family moved to Utah several months ago. The letter and threat came from her old ward. The morg refused to transfer the proceeding to Utah, so Kate is assembling papers to be p
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Yes! Everything can get reversed in the morg.
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I actually agree with this, but if I wanted to throw caution to the wind, it would be the Second Anointing! It's secret, privileged, and show the two-tiered elite-peon structure of the morg in a nutshell.
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