"Not throwing the baby out with the bathwater can go both way." Disclaimer: I do NOT believe in religion... Wouldn't the same argument be true for having hope, faith, positive attitude, prayer for those in need, etc etc., instead of throwing all spirituality out the window too? I just don't everything is so black and white.
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When I left the church at 18 and never looked back I become a hard core atheist. Now, years later I am open and no longer feel that I have all the answers.
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I agree, RPackham, No one knows what happens to us after we die and if they claim they do they are lying. A lot of people will give you their opinions on this matter...
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I have no idea if there is life after death or not and will find out one day or I won't. But if there is, my feeling is that you find whatever it is you want and/or believe in so if you believe in Mormonism then that is what you will find and if not and so on and so forth. We are all humans living a human experience in a 3D world where we are limited, I think in understanding the big pic
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I will give this a try over the weekend and report back. However, I am a skeptic but will try it nonetheless. Nothing to lose, I suppose...
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I am! I left when I was 18 and never looked back...
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I'm really sorry for your loss. I know whats it like to lose a spouse...
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Thank you very much, Blue orchid... I agree with what you say. I have no idea if I'll ever see Glenn again or not. One day I will know, or, I won't. That's the hard part. In the meantime, I'm trying to be a nicer person to honor my late husband. He was very kind to everyone.
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Thank you very much for your kind words. I am finding my way...
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I agree! When my father died my mom didn't seem to grieve much. I suppose its because she thinks they will just continue where they left off when she dies. I don't share her beliefs. After losing my husband, its been difficult for me because I feel badly for him, not so much me. He was the one who was robbed of living a full life but I am finding my way the best I can and trying to find pea
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I'm sorry for your loss.
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I'm very sorry for your loss... I know how you feel. I lost my husband to sudden death 22 months ago. He was my best friend and the love of my life. Sending you love.
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My dear sweet husband died suddenly a little less than two years ago. He was only 57 and was not sick (brain bleed). He had a full second half of his life to live and did not get that chance.I was a hard core atheist before his passing. The obnoxious type who felt that I had all the answers... WELL, losing my husband while I was out doing groceries with no goodbyes...Well, its NOT fun so I've
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That's a ridiculous response. You know darn well this is not what he meant...Its constant complaining about situations that causes victimhood.
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I think that is very sound advice for anyone, really. It doens't matter to me who said it, it makes sense. No one wants to be around a victim.
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I would think that if you are uber TBM and like to follow rules and/or have perhaps worked for the government before and prefer that over the private sector then I would think those sorts of people would like to work for them.
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I never felt abandoned by my parents due to the church but knew at a very, very young age that it was all made up...I kind of felt sorry for my family that they fell for it. I could never figure out why I was the only one who thought it was all BS...
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ificouldhietokolob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rgg Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It is still a belief system, though. I think > that > > some call it a religion because some are > > entrenched in their beliefs and even though the > > belief is to not believe, that is still a
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It is still a belief system, though. I think that some call it a religion because some are entrenched in their beliefs and even though the belief is to not believe, that is still a belief if there is no wiggle room for being open minded. This is not a criticism (I seem to have to use this now with any and all posts re this topic due to the sensitive nature of some re this topic).
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I couldn't agree more. Its really gotten to the point where many of these posts have ZERO to do with recovering from Mormonism. I really wish that the posters would stop shoving their beliefs down others and/or name calling and ridiculing others that they disagree with. I posted once that to me this feels like TBMs in the way they vehemently defend their beliefs to the point of ridicule to
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magic823 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Stop trolling. Why would you say that? I think the post is very on topic because there have been a lot of postings about this lately.
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I've been saying the very same thing sb and it falls in deaf ears... I myself, choose to believe in nothing and I am also open.
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Unless one of us has had such an experience, we are then just giving our own opinions on the matter. I have vivid dreams, I always have. I remember many of them and there are other people there where I seem to be living another life. And, I know they are just my dreams...With that said, they do not come close to what people describe in their NDEs, which, seem to be more like real life than the
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I had a son 34 years ago. MY family shipped me off to live with some TBM family. They were awful and treated me very poorly. I was hidden away...I was forced to go to meetings at LDS social services for other girls in my situation. We were all brainwashed into giving our kids up for adoption. I never did and was thrown out. I had no pre natal care. It was horrible. But I did have a wonderful son
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He was married with kids. VERY successful as his wife. They do drink alcohol but are super weird about therapy and think its bad...They also avoid all bad news which is good but to an extreme which wasn't so good. I used to have to hide bad news from him and/or learn to tell him in a way that there was a solution. All of their friends were celeb scientologists. I did learn a lot from him about l
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I agree with you. I've received many rude replies to my postings on this topic just because I honestly believe in nothing, really and have no desire to slam my beliefs down others throats.. Also, I've explained my position. In that my husband died suddenly about 21 months ago from a brain aneurysm. His passing has caused me to be more open and to try and be a nicer person. And, not ONE poster
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My mom said that she was asked this question growing up (she is now 82). However, this myth was typically towards Jews. My mother-in-law who is Jewish and 82 said that she was asked this many, many times growing up. Its ignorant and mean and hopefully doesn't happen any more.
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What I've heard is that "new atheists" challenge non atheists more than before. Its as if they are on a crusade of sorts. Much like the religious right are but for different POVs, of course. For me, I believe in nothing, really. I've said this many times before. And to me, atheists, TBMs, fundamental Christians, New-Agers, you name it, cling to their beliefs so rigidly that they are
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Its horrible!
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