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2 years ago
azsteve
I don't know if I've ever told this joke yet on this forum. Those who like quantum physics might better appreciate the humor. Heisenberg and Shrodinger were speeding down the road one day. Heisenberg was driving. A police officer noticed how fast they were going and pulled them over. The officer says to Heisenberg "do you know how fast you were traveling?". Heisenberg responds "
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2 years ago
azsteve
As I said, the OP was a bit cryptic. And Lot's Wife's interpretations are often wrong. We'll have to wait and see if they implement vaccine passports or not. If they don't, then I won't be offended. The analogy of the woman was only to point out basic human rights that apply to every individual. In Colorado City, the polygamists think they own the woman and that if a woman wants to exercise her r
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2 years ago
azsteve
The sister wives of Colorado City might agree. The community in Colorado City might be outraged that this woman does not think about their community at all. All she thinks about is herself.
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2 years ago
azsteve
You are being a bit cryptic. But it most often has nothing to do with the supernatural. And yes, it often is worth dieing for. Generally, not everyone perceives the world the same way that others perceive the world. I certainly don't believe everything I am told or that I read, no matter what the source is or how many people tell me what I should believe. I tend to double-down even more when all
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2 years ago
azsteve
Maybe if they bring in my favorite rock band to play in the chapel, then I would sit in the pews to watch them.
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2 years ago
azsteve
Let's see here, if they pay me $1000 for each meeting, with Priesthood, Sunday School, and Sacrament meeting, that's $3K per week, $12K per month, just for showing up and sitting there. If they pay me another $10K per month, maybe in fast and testimony meeting, I'll bear my testimony that I know the church is true, beyond a shadow of a doubt. That's $22K per month total. Maybe each trip through t
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2 years ago
azsteve
I've often thought that if we lived in a Star Trek universe, that the Mormons would all be Romulans. The cunning use of words and the difficult-to-prove lies are very much the same. It appears to be family ties, culture, and inability to think critically (no one teaches Mormons to do critical thinking), that keeps most Mormons tied to the church for no logical or poor-logic reasons. Even th
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2 years ago
azsteve
Sorry to hear about your catching Covid-19 Dorothy. You said that you are having neurological affects and that you are accepting advice. The most freightening affects of having Covid-19 for me was the mental fog and one other neurological affect that I find difficult to describe. But I will try describe it here for anyone who may recognize my description and not know what to do about it. I did
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2 years ago
azsteve
Up until the late 1980's, there were more educated, very smart people that accepted mormon local priesthood leadership positions because mormonism was growing and as leaders, there was something in it for them personally. Typically they could leverage their positions to gain more influence over more people. If nothing else, they got more practice dealing with people. Then around 1990, the tide
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2 years ago
azsteve
Most of the Mormon church members will do whatever the church leaders tell them to do. If the First Presidency said "we're going to treat our black brothers and sisters with equality on Mondays, Wednesdays, and fridays, and then on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays, the curse of cain applies, many church members would be on-board with that because they believe anything the church te
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2 years ago
azsteve
Maybe Jeffrey Holland should go out in disgrace like Paul Dunn did. And I liked Paul Dunn. I can't say the same of Holland. Dunn's problem was that he couldn't tell truth from faction, even in his own life stories.
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2 years ago
azsteve
I was disfellowshipped for having sex with a girlfriend. They could have excommunicated me then and I wouldn't have resented being excommunicated. In fact, my plan at the time was to repent, even if they would have excommunicated me. I broke the rules. But the fallout that resulted from that same action was handled terribly by the church. They couldn't have messed things up any worse than they di
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2 years ago
azsteve
Not that anyone in mormonism is obliged to follow mormon rules, but technically only the fulltime missionaries are authorized to teach non-members. My mission president used to say that the local members do not have authority to teach non-members and that like a bishop, the missionaries geographic area is assigned to them by the proper priesthood authorities. He claimed that when the local mem
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2 years ago
azsteve
Jeffrey Holland is also the only GA that I know of that has admitted publicly (during a television interview), that the pre-1990 temple ceremony included oaths that involved acting out having your throat and body slashed open. https://blog.mrm.org/2012/03/lds-apostle-discusses-pre-1990-mormon-temple-death-penalties/ At first Holland used some mis-direction by saying "we do not have Pe
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2 years ago
azsteve
I just finished watching a podcast on this very topic on mormon stories: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/elder-holland-losing-control-over-mormon-lgbtq-support-at-byu/ It looks like a real war is brewing over this issue and Jeffrey Holland and the highest levels of the church are going to pay a price for being on the wrong side of this issue. A few years ago the BYU valedictorian of
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2 years ago
azsteve
At age 59, I just don't see the need for nearly as much in-person socialization as I used to when I was younger. With working 4 out of 5 days from home and most people at work doing the same, where I work is pretty much a ghost town. On the off chance that you do see anyone there, they're all wearing masks. For the three weeks before I caught Covid-19, I didn't even go in to work at all. I didn't
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2 years ago
azsteve
If the Mormon church really did care about getting everyone vaccinated, here is what they would do: 1.) Purchase enough vaccine to vaccinate every church member world-wide. I think that $100 Billion will cover it easily, leaving almost all of their precious Ensign Peak fund untouched. It might cost less than a new mall. 2.) Plan ahead for a "Vaccination Sunday" and a follow-up vac
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2 years ago
azsteve
If you still want to have faith and believe in God after you resign from the Mormon church, you can. Just remember these three rules. 1.) God is not a Mormon. 2.) Mormonism is a dead-end road. 3.) There are no rules as to what your belief system should look like. You can create it from scratch if you want to, or join another church if you want to. You are free. If they tell you that "
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2 years ago
azsteve
Aren't you coming due for your next booster shot now? Better get to it. I hear that the grim reaper is coming for those who are late on their booster shots. Maybe if you never leave the house, wear five masks at all times, and never be late for your booster shots, he will pass you by. But be very afraid. Just do what you're told to do and you'll be safe.
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2 years ago
azsteve
I went outside for a few hours today and I was wearing sunscreen. But since the people I was with were not wearing sunscreen, I got sunburned. Yes, people are losing their minds.
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2 years ago
azsteve
Since the Admins have said that they will delete conspiracy theory posts, a new trend here by some individuals seems to be to accuse others here who they disagree with, of making conspiracy theory posts, in hopes of getting those posts deleted. This tactic itself is not a conspiracy theory, just the actions of a few individuals. To be clear here, I am not claiming that there are any kind of consp
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2 years ago
azsteve
Lot's Wife Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have linked to the law several times and yet you > have not read it. Why is that? Are you afraid it > will contradict your claims? > > You say the CDC manages vaccine authorizations. > Is that true? > > You say "EUA" means "emergency use authorization." > Is
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2 years ago
azsteve
Space Pineapple Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have a close family member who is > anti-mask/anti-vax. In May he ended up in the > hospital, attached to a ventilator, and pumped > full of drugs thanks to CV-19. At his age and > with his medical conditions we figured him a goner > and mentally prepared for it. Fortunately he > surv
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2 years ago
azsteve
Go against official government publications if you want to (LW). The words are published by the government, linked to in my post, and are available to anyone who wants to read them and interpret them for themselves. I tried to limit the number of sources to make it easier to read and understand. Feel free to do your own research through government sources only (to avoid real conspiracies) only. M
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2 years ago
azsteve
Brother Of Jerry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You think he is going to lose customers because he > requires all employees to be vaccinated? You do > realize that a lot of employers are requiring or > will soon require this, right? They all think this > is a good business decision, I am talking about the customers that Shrodinger is worri
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2 years ago
azsteve
Lot's Wife Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > azsteve Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Workplace safety is a pretty big issue with > some > > applicable teeth to enforce the protection of > > employees at their work place. Unvaccinated > people > > like me (even though I have had
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2 years ago
azsteve
Lot's Wife Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > OSHA's busy. I think the DMV should oversee > vaccine trials, licensing, and regulation?. > > Or maybe Parks and Recreation. Workplace safety is a pretty big issue with some applicable teeth to enforce the protection of employees at their work place. Unvaccinated people like me (even though I have h
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2 years ago
azsteve
schrodingerscat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I actually agree with my Boss on this issue. > I also think we should make proof of vaccination a > requirement to eat in a restaurant, or fly on a > plane, like NYC and Paris. Your boss probably does have a legal right to do what he is doing. But he is operating as roughly one-percent of what ot
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2 years ago
azsteve
Roy G Biv Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Excellent point! You don't get to pick and choose > what safety policies you're going to follow at > your employer. > > I used to be a safety auditor at work and would do > little random inspections to see if people were > following the safety rules. One time a fellow > engineer that was
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