I had always thought that Holland was a good guy who means well but was just delluded. But after hearing his MTC rant and other stories (many on here) I am not so sure. I would like to hear anyone who has interacted with him give me there personal take and I will listen to your stories. I guess I am curious to know if he is intentionally a manipulator/liar?
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https://youtu.be/3s5Wq4Z4kMk This talk was played for us at the MTC about a week before I was sent home for "depression" attached is the link. If there are any problems uploading it let me know. I didnt know what to think of this talk when I heard it, now I just think it is infuriating, disgusting, emotional manipulation and it makes me sick!
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Something to Think about... For years the FBI and lots of other Federal Law Enforcement Agencies have a reputation for being over run with Returned Missionary Mormons. One of the main reasons I am told is they know how to be "Obedient to Authority" Is that really someone who will make a good FBI/Federal Agent. I know part of the course for Special Agent Trainees (FBI) is they have e
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A while ago I used the name of an MTC (Director of training) on a post here. I did not like the guy and was angry at him, however having to listen to this guy was one of the things that started me on my path out. I used his name because he is in a pretty high profile position within the Morg and later was a mission President. I would not be at all surprised if we see him get even higher one da
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It has been a while since I have posted on here. I know that I have posted a lot of things on here that have caused some controversies and even angered some people. For that I apologize. For a while I have not felt as Angry at Mormonism and religion as I did years ago. It comes and goes in waves. I would like people who I have offended to know that I deal with the two diagnoses of Aspergers
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Hey it has been a while and I have been curious about something. I have been traveling a lot, and generally all Marriott hotels or their brands are really good. But I wonder if I am a hypocrite when I stay there and pay money that goes to the Marriotts and than into the pockets of the Mormon Church. And of course having a book of Mormon by your bedside is weird. I would like to know if anyone
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I just saw Mitt Romney's twitter video on his Utah Senate run and felt the need to post here. He talks about how great the "people of Utah" are and how much "Washington can learn from Utah." My thought is do you think he is using this "opprotunity" in Utah to try to springboard another Presidential run?
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Hi it has been a while since I have been on here. Let me just say that I have never been to a General Conference in person, and I am glad! I did not grow up in the church and did not join until I was 18. But after being in the MTC where every meeting, class, and day was like a mini General Conference, I know how mind numbing, uncomfortable and boring they can be. I want to express my sympathy
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All right, this is hard for me. I posted before about how I met a girl who after sleeping with me, told me that she was about to join the church. I told her very generally about how I had converted to it and than left. (she joined anyway). This is a woman in her late 20s (close to my age) and is divorced (from a bad marriage) and has tow young sons. Well since she joined we have continued to
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I have heard this from TBMs way to many times. Some have even told me that people have said to them "we heard Mormons have horns on their head." Well I think anyone who actually thinks that there are people who believe this are stupid! Do any of you know anyone who really think that there are people who truly believe that "Mormons have horns on there head." Is this just an
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Here is the story, Months ago I meet a girl who I was attracted to. We ended up having sex that night. She started telling me that same night that she was about to be baptized into the Mormon Church. I immediately started to tell her that night, that I used to be a Mormon. As we spoke over the phone the next few weeks, I tried to tell her the reasons that I left; learning shady mission tacti
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With all of those vibrant, smiling, happy looking young people in it. Especially those in the choir, how many of them do you think are just there because their parents made them, how many of them are hung over? How many of them are sexually active? How many of them don't believe at all? Any thoughts?
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^Yes I have, and I know that my actions would probably fall into that category. Please do not think that I am making any excuses for my actions.
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A lot of you on here know me and know my story. I have apologized more than once for my actions that led to me not being able to go to Arizona Ex Mormon meet ups anymore. But I have been doing a lot of soul searching and inward reflecting, so I felt that I needed to post this. As many of you know, I have Asperger's Syndrome. However, I can not use that as an excuse for my actions. HERE IS TH
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I am curious if anyone has any stories of someone who goes back to or joins the church just so that they can get married to a beautiful Mollymo that they are in love with. 1.) How do they convince themselves to do it? 2.) What is it normally like? What happens? If anyone has any stories about this, I would like to hear them. It is something that I have thought about multiple times and tried
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I just read about this this morning and saw comments about it on here. So I really feel the need to post something. I have only read a little bit and already I am disturbed. I am disturbed because I have Asperger's Syndrome as well like most of you know. I am disturbed because some of his comments and frustrations were very similar to mine... I was not a 22 year old virgin. But throughout my
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Are there any signs that this could happen or is starting to happen. If a reformer like Gorbachav becomes President of TSCC and starts losing restrictions and making serious changes, could that cause the church to implode just like what happened with the Soviet Union? I have been studying communist countries and the cold war a lot lately and one poster here even compared the top 15 to a "c
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Well it is baseball season, and I have a question. I have read on this board and other Ex Mo boards that one of Paul H. Dunn's tall tales was that he would "meet with other players in hotel rooms, pray with them and teach them about the gospel." On this board and the others it says he claimed to have done that with Ted Williams. Dunn claimed that he played five years with the St. Lou
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All right, in response to fallen Moroni's post: I thought that I did stop when he asked me to and explain to him and his wife why I said and asked the things that I did. But I have no doubt that I might have come across differently and that what he is saying has merrit. Second about telling a guy that his "wife had nice calves and I wanted to squeze them." I knew this guys sister pr
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No I do not need a prostitute, I am not that far out there and I do not feel like geting arrested.
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Well it is still tough for me, because I like to talk about this kind of stuff like blogger Laci Green (an ex mo) and I also like to be like Howard Stern sometimes lol. I also like to talk about this stuff with women more than with men because I know what men are like and how they think where as with women it is more of a mystery to me. The rules are really grey a lot of the time and it is frus
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Many of you know me and know my situation on here. I was just looking through posts and saw one talking about "Question: For Mormon Brides on their weding night." Many men and women talked in great detail about sexual experiences relating to how they were raised in Mormonism. I was not raised in Mormonism but converted when I was 18. A big part of my experience both joining and leav
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I want to thank everyone on here who responded to my last post. Even those who disagree with me. I was not trying to "Play the victim" I was only trying to tell my side of the story and take responsability for damadge that I have done to other people. I am geting help (therapist). To happyashellexmo and Fallen Mormoni, I hope that you can accept my apologies for the mistakes that I m
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Thank you everyone for your help here. To the two AZ ex Mos on here, will you please accept my apology. While I do not remember everything on here the same way you do I have no doubt that your side of the story has Meritt. I am always working on myself the best that I can and as I know, I will be staying away from the group out of respect for everyone involved. Please know that I am not a sex
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One thing that is hard is that the main reason that I joined Mormonism is because a core group of Mormons were and still are the most accepting of me. But when I saw through it I looked for other ex mos for support. Now this happens.
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A lot of you have read my posts over the years and know my story/stories well. I live in Arizona and had been going to the meetups of the local Arizona ExMo group (meets in Mesa/Gilbert). Some of you on here may know the story but I would like to share my side of it. For about two years I had been going to all of the Ex Mo socials I enjoyed sharing my story of how it was teenage social pressur
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I was asked this today by a guy who works at Desert Books. I know him and his family well and he is a pretty good guy. So when he asked me 'How are you Doing in The Church" I answered "I am doing fine." And the conversation went on from there. By "I am doing fine" I meant I no longer believe or practice it, and I have resigned my membership and feel that it was the ri
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Most of you have probably heard of Eric Weddle (played at Utah and San Diego Chargers), Well I played high school football and would have loved to have played college football (didn't happen). I joined the Church right before I graduated from high school, and a year later because of various factors I chose to go on a mission. I was pretty much made to believe that I needed to go on a mission, b
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I have wanted to bring up the point with a TBM who likes to defend tscc by comparing it to companies or the military. I want to point out to her that in those organizations people are only required to follow rules and directives that are legal/ethical. I can tell that she would counter with, "what mission rules or church rules are immoral/illegal/or unethical." Well, I could answer t
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Growing up I knew Catholics, but their religion was never an issue. The reason I have some respect for them is because it seems that Catholics call out their leaders and ignore any assanine "commandmants" such as not using birth control for one. Catholic women/girls also have a reputation for being "wild" and rebels, where as any Mormon girl who deviates from morg directives
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