I’ve actually told her everything about what goes on inside the temple as well and her reaction was pretty much the same: “That is the stupidest s**t I’ve ever heard of!”. She’s fully expo now but since she lives with her mom she still goes to church BUT she just looks at it more as a place where people relish in their idiotic delusions and tell themselves stories to make them feel bett
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Her response: This is the stupidest looking s**t I’ve ever seen! A green apron? What the f**k?” Life is good, hahaha!!
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Sometimes I know I shouldn't laugh at dark humor, but sometimes I don't know of any other way to cope with such horrific stuff... From the comments section in one of the articles: New Degree of Glory in Mormon heaven- The Molestial Kingdom
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There were so many things BUT the catalyst was definitely the Book of Abraham. It was just indefensible on every front and the fact that the church wouldn't just acknowledge that it was not a translation struck me as immature. Add to that the fact that, when my parents tried to steer me back into the fold with a couple of books on the subject by some random PHD talking heads from BYU, their ar
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Sometimes I still wish I had these kind of encounters JUST for the sport of it... Sometimes ;)
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I've known John for nearly 10 years. I've spent weekends with him at my parents-in-law for family gatherings and he's been a regular, if rather eccentric, fixture in my life and my wife's family's life consistently. Looking back we can all see ‘indicators’ that would make much more sense after this nightmare began. John was ALWAYS a social outcast and never had friends as he was growing up
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It's for this year. This was written a week after Coltharp's sentencing hearing on August 8th, 2018 where he was sentenced to two consecutive sentences of 25 years to life and 1 to 15 years. The soonest he'll be eligible for parole will be 2044 and, based on his statements in court, he'll most likely never see the outside of prison for the rest of his natural life. And that's fine with me as I
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Seems like everyone that wants to pick up where Joseph Smith left off is either gunning for the world to end or trying to find ways to justify heinous criminal sexual activity; or BOTH. John Coltharp gives an interview shortly before being transported to Gunnison's Central Utah Correctional Facility. http://sanpetemessenger.com/2018/08/16/an-interview-with-john-coltharp-convicted-child-biga
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John Coltharp delivered a rambling putrid speech at his sentencing declaring himself to be the reincarnation of Old Testament Prophets, that there was nothing wrong with what he did, and a "Prophesy" that Utah and national governments will soon fall. But the crux of everything his delusions revolved around centers on one critical statement: "Coltharp declared there was a war
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I needed it and I got it (not just for my exit from Mormonism). The church paid for my therapy (because my 'then' wife demanded that I go to therapy for my apostasy) and my therapist was a member of the stake high council. But my story is one of those rare good ones. First thing my therapist said to me after I word vomited all over him about what was pent up inside was: "People chan
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TOTALLY remember her! She was awesome!
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Thanks! I went and looked - LOL! What a blast from the past! And I didn't even know there were comments. Thanks! ;)
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The repeated assertion that the 'world' was always watching Mormons to see if they would live up to the standards they profess to espouse - I.E. "The world is watching you so stay true to your morals and standards!" Come to find out (confirmed by several of my non-Mormon friends after I left the church and wanted to know what they REALLY thought) the "world" is just watchin
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Here are a couple of good places to start: https://utahpridecenter.org/ https://affirmation.org/ the SLC area actually has a pretty robust and vibrant LGBTQ community (one of the largest pride festivals in the nation) and I'm sure that you'll be able to connect with people and resources in either/both of these groups to start building a community of friends who accept you and love you fo
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You should remind her that NO ONE can influence her unless she opens herself up to be influenced. That's HER responsibility! She can't push that off on you. Not that I'm in the business of telling people how to do things but, from perusing your comments, it's pretty obvious that she has either NEVER taken personal responsibility for how she feels and/or acts or that it's been so long since she ha
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This woman needs SERIOUS therapy! You've been completely reasonable through this whole process (based on the contents of your story). The problem is that Mormons in general are NEVER taught how to constructively and directly deal with their cognitive dissonance or internal conflicts in a healthy way. They're admonished to pray, pay, and obey the problems away and wait for the magical solution.
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Yeah, it's still on the short topics section: It's number 413. I read it a year or so ago and thought "wow that really WAS another life!" I agree wholeheartedly though; if there are no kids this is one of those situations where SERIOUS thought should be given to calling it - and quick. Yeah, divorce is a meat grinder. But better to get ground up quick and then move on to hea
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Yeah, it's still on the short topics section: https://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon413.htm I read it a year or so ago and thought "wow that really WAS another life!" I agree wholeheartedly though; if there are no kids this is one of those situations where SERIOUS thought should be given to calling it - and quick. Yeah, divorce is a meat grinder. But better to get ground up
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And to the comments that others have made that you changed and broke the contract: No you f$#%'ing didn't! News flash people: If you think for one moment that your spouse will be the exact same person for decades on end, you're worse than a f#$%'ing deluded miscreant. People change. And sometimes those changes are pretty significant. The only real marital advice I'm giving my daughters i
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That may be the case in most instances but it's not ALWAYS true (but in saying that, it's best to err on the side of caution). In the case of the actual divorce, I was one of the lucky ones. For all of my ex wife's issues with respect to Mormonism and her general coldness towards me, she really did have the best interest of our children at heart and we actually did separate amicably. She didn'
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Rolled out of bed very lazily and had a leisurely morning. Then the wife went tanning and we went to dinner at the Tin Roof Grill and then saw a movie. Sundays are GREAT in Utah because there's hardly anyone around.
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Your wife sounds a lot like my ex wife. Lots of women (and men as well) in the LDS church put loyalty to the church ahead of EVERYTHING else... and I mean EVERYTHING. So if you're no longer believing, you've nullified your wife's celestial meal ticket. In her eyes, you've shattered your eternal family and there's no coming back from that because she's been indoctrinated with that silly, stupid, p
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I'm just waiting for this guy to "find some fig leaves and make himself and apron..." Hahahahahaha!
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Thanks everyone! These are some great perspectives and I've got plenty of time to sort this out. Thankfully I'm in a great working environment so, even if I don't really "care" about what I do, I care about doing good work and I've got a great situation so it's not like I'm slogging through drudgery day after day... Like I said, I've got NOTHING to complain about and I can take my sw
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Sooooo first off let me preface this with absolute truth: I REALLY can’t complain about my life. There’s always a look over the fence now and then and the occasional thought that the grass might be greener but 40+ years on this planet and my penchant for skepticism AND a fundamental realization that there’s NOTHING inherently special about me or my situation keeps me firmly grounded in t
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First: Depeche Mode; Devotional Tour in Nov, 1993 in SLC Last: Stick Figure in Jan, 2018
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Thank you so much. I wouldn't wish any of this on my worst enemy - it's visceral - and I'm not even the victim. The two or three times that I've had a chance to talk to the kids' mother, I've just bawled like a baby - thinking about it too much puts me in a place that's REALLY not good to me so I have to force myself to snap out of it. I'm just trying to focus on doing whatever I can for the
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Thank you - sometimes it's shocking to me how primal I feel toward these two individuals - I'm definitely in touch with my lizard brain!
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sure sign of the nail? Hehehehehe!
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I will say that if your family is prone to being overly invasive in conversation and contact then it might be worthwhile to make at least one 'last stand' and let them know exactly where you stand. I did have to do that with my parents 11 years ago (good god has it been that long!?!) when the cumulative cacophony from everyone's efforts to 'rescue' me was more than I could handle (got to the p
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