I should add that my monthly pain is very serious (less so these days thank the lord baby jesus! ;)).. worst pains I've ever had in my life, akin to labor pains.. so I know about pain. I nearly suicided over it a couple of times as I could not bear it. I took hard core pharmas that did not help.. so just saying I know what I am talking about when I talk about pain!
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I don't do Pharmas as my body can't handle them (have tried and failed too many times), so I do all natural herbal and other remedies. I've gotten pretty good at treating myself. One thing I do for pain management (Which I still need every month for my 'female troubles') is to use Kava Kava herb. Very potent. And don't believe any hype you read online about liver damage BS. That is very misrepres
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I re-watched the original Stepford Wives recently (on Youtube) and man does that show hit the mark! When I went to the Y (having been raised in a low Mormon population state) I was reminded of the Stepford wives everywhere I went! I recommended it to my younger TBM sis recently and then while watching it myself I thought, hmm, she may not like this as much as me, might hit too close to home
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They go to church on Saturday I think..
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YES!
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Great thread. I was actually wondering about this myself as I read Yoganda's book this past year (well nearly all of it). And I got curious. My partner already had all of the lessons downloaded so I never had to buy any to try them out. But I got turned off pretty quickly to it all because I couldn't do the 'prayers' at the beginning of the lessons that included 'heavenly father, jesus, and a lis
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Well said NormaRae, thank you!
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special fund? you mean in addition to their billions of dollars in tithing funds? Maybe they shouldn't be building mega malls if they want to make sure their temples have sufficient funds for repairs in these kinds of events. And anyway didn't they have insurance? But seriously it is sickening that any focus should be on caring about that stupid building when people have lost their homes. How
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No way! That's crazy!!!
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Hie wrote= "Kids who had no business learning any foreign language being in the foreign language missions, not making any progress whatsoever, and continually being told that if they weren't getting it they just weren't being obedient enough or didn't have enough faith. When the simple fact was they had zero language aptitude (they weren't "stupid," they just weren't the type who
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Totally agree with Texasmo on the smart phone addiction issues in the youth. But also in adults now as well. People who were previously able to make eye contact and carry on conversations without constant digital distractions are now completely handicapped by this new technology. I can be very shy as well and have had issues with social anxiety but the use of smart phones has become a crutch
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Duh, the original post did say the new buildings were much better. What a douche. And calling our serious sharing 'hilarious'.. oh isn't he just so much better than all of us poor apostate atheists. Of course HE would fail to see the despair and fake forced smiles since he is too brainwashed to pay attention to reality. Much like the original post's mother and aunt who thought everyone looked s
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Ha that's what my friends and I all called it while a the Y and somehow it always sounded so appropriate.. just a sea of young people empty of all pleasure and intelligence and hope..
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Sorry to hear that, but i know it's pretty typical in the cult to believe anytime something bad is happening (esp. that people are having a hard time stopping or controlling, like inexplicable illness), that it's Satan trying to interfere. I grew up thinking things like that too. Believing that if I was being tempted to stray off the straight and narrow it was Satan's doing. I believed I was
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Sorry you had to go through that but I am happy to hear about the verdict. I am sure it will ultimately be what's best for the family, although it sounds like those girls need rescuing from their mother as well. How awful that she testified against them and in favor of the perp!! Of course she's in denial and Mormonism certainly helps people with staying in denial! And of course the girls aren't
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Exactly!
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I've lived off less, and been technically homeless (couch surfer) because my TBM parents wouldn't support me when I wasn't doing the usual Mormon thing (getting married super young, having kids) and instead wanted to live and work in NYC. So I had to scrape by on my own for all of my adult life not having gotten much at all after leaving the nest at 18 (even didn't get much support when I was at
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I still love Cat Stevens' songs to this day. Esp. his lesser known ones written for the movie 'Harold and Maude' .. The song titled 'Trouble' is my all time favorite which I often play as a cover song on my guitar (and sing). I thought it really sad that he turned religious fanatic and makes crappy religious music as a result. His songs before had represented such nice peaceful hippy attitude
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I agree with a lot of the other posts here although I think it's possible that the relationship with your girlfriend/lover (we don't know which) might be being misinterpreted because of the casual way you referenced it. I think it's possible that it's someone you are serious with and care about and that you didn't have sex just to piss off your mom and have an excuse to get out of the cult. I
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Cheryl's post sounds so familiar. What's really f'd up for me is that it was so traumatizing that I only have fragmented memory of it. Of course I was 12 at the time, but wait I went again when I was 18 or 19 while at the Y. I have just mostly blocked it out, which is what I have done with my most traumatic childhood abuse. So that concerns me as I am not even sure what happened I blocked so much
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Great share. Thanks Sam. Good for you for figuring it out and finding real happiness. I really wish my parents (in their 70s) would see the light and leave but I know they are way too invested at this point and work really hard to keep themselves in denial and quell all the doubts that I know come up (because they have to when the whole 'church' is based on lies and manipulation). I still hop
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Yeah exactly what azsteve said, why ask us? We don't want to go to a ward of any kind anywhere.
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I know this 'ice cream' is TRUE! Beyond a shadow of a doubt and with all of the fiber of my being! Actually I think it would be easier to prove an ice cream is true over a religion. At least we can be 100 percent sure of the 'creator' or rather 'creators' (The cow and the people who turned it to iced cream).. And we can trace the origins (Cow, people, machinery, etc).
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Can't find the article now, but the other day I was reading BBC news and my understanding is that NK has been threatening to hit Guam but also saying that they have the capacity to hit NYC or Alaska. However it is speculated that they are not quite there yet with their capacity to actually hit their target that precisely and also they do not (yet) have the capacity to miniaturize a nuke to fi
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Serious passive aggressive behavior you should not have to tolerate at all. You are being wronged by HIS behavior. I've had to learn to value myself enough after my years in the cult of not being valued to understand that I don't deserve and will no longer tolerate that kind of crazy immature treatment from anyone no matter who they are. I had to set standards for myself of what I will allow
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Brings to mind a book entitled 'Better off Dead' (I hope to read it sometime but right now it's only Kindle edition and I have a different type of E-reader).. written by a now ex-Mo whose TBM son killed himself at age 18 basically because he told the truth in his mission interview and said he had masturbated. Well the fall out from that (harsh discipline measures, not being allowed to serve a mis
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I second that! Even Christ mentioned a strong punishment for anyone who would harm children, but in their twisted way TSCC has said that what Christ meant by 'offend' (must be their idiot King James version) was not teaching children the gospel, not fully indoctrinating them in your homes.. THAT's what the punishment is meant for, parents who 'fail' to teach their children properly. I just
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It's true 'Hie' there are actually good men out there who treat women as equals, I know because I found one. But I can tell you it was a very hard find! And he is certainly not nor ever was Mormon or religious at all and I think that helps. The men I dated after leaving the cult, well the worst were the religious ones. I had thought, incorrectly it was just Mormonism that was so hard on women, I
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Absolutely agree with this, thank you!
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Thanks for that. Your attitude is really appreciated by those of us who have been mistreated. It takes courage to stand up and admit there is a problem, esp. when it's one perpetrated by your 'own kind'.. you are right most men just don't notice. the thing is if one hasn't been presented with another way to live and been indoctrinated into certain beliefs than it's very hard to actually see what'
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