Thanks for the input, everyone. I appreciate it.
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I am a nevermo and still learning about all of this... but my ex is an absolute narcissist and I can see where the LDS church fits her like a glove. So I am inclined to think you are correct. There seem to be a lot of narcissistic traits in the church and it seems to appeal to people who are narcissistic. Or so it seems in my admittedly limited experience.
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So sad. =( I am committed to doing what I can to prevent their baptisms, but the folks here have helped me make my peace that I can’t REALLY prevent it. If the Mormons can find your name, they will baptize you. If you don’t consent to it while you’re a live they’ll do it when you’re dead. It’s all so sick.
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Hello everyone. Recap, then a question. Recap. I'm a neverMO, ex was a golden contact convert, hid her conversion for a year. When I found out I took legal action to prevent the baptism of my daughters 4 and 8. We have joint custody. Question. They are getting ready to travel for the holidays. Do Mormons look up the local ward when they get where they are going and just "pop
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Fast Sundays are the first Sunday of the month, is that right?
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elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, dead-dunking is not en masse. > Each kids gets dunked a number of times for each > foray into the font... That’s my definition of en masse. And that’s what I wish to protect my kids from. Having to go in, put on the outfit, and get shoved under water 20 times in some weirdo occult ritual for
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That is horrifyingly fascinating. I wasn’t even talking about baptisms of the living... I am still at the point of being appalled by baptizing the dead en mass.
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thedesertrat1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe we should note here that most organized > religions will do that which they think they get > away with. > Regardless of the consequences unless the > "church" could be forced to totally erase this > proposed act of baptism from their records it > becomes moot as to whether
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anybody Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > and giants lived at the North Pole too -- or some > such nonsense Also the moon and the sun? Because “God” would never make a heavenly body if it couldn’t support human life? Or something like that? I tell you, some of the stuff I see I just have to ignore because I have more pressing issues and some o
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Thank you for your reply on my other thread. I feel that my input on yours might not be super duper useful, as I am a NeverMo and a man, and the church didn’t enter into my situation until after the divorce... so very different circumstances... But given the issues that are pretty unique to females coming out of LDS surely there are some gender-specific ex-mo support groups. Maybe that w
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On the occasion of my two-week-aversary on the board let me say thanks, give an update, and ask a question. So thanks for your support, everyone. RECAP. I’m a divorced nevermo and my ex secretly converted a year ago. I have joint custody of 2 daughters and the eldest just turned 8. My attorneys have drafted a letter to her Bishop, Stake President, and the SLC Membership office assertin
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I am new here... still spelunking down the LDS rabbit hole... So the Mormons believe that there were 12 foot tall red haired humans in North America... and that there is archaeological and fossils evidence of such? If so... is that a common belief or more of a specialty thing? I just can’t wrap my head around it. If it were true it would be on the front page of TIME magazine like Tuta
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macaRomney Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "I have attorneys writing letters to all levels of > the LDS hierarchy from her local meetinghouse to > SLC asserting my joint legal parental rights and > forbidding baptism and private interviews." > > that's good that you do, but letters to SL will > just be rerouted to the stake
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Quick recap from my previous posts. I'm a NEVERMO, my ex is a Golden Contact convert. Just found out she's been going and taking my daughters aged 8 and 4 to an LDS church for a almost a year. Her baptismal anniversary is coming up, so presumably she is going for her Temple Recommend. We have joint custody. I have attorneys writing letters to all levels of the LDS hierarchy from her local m
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Ok, my next question. In learning about the LDS church and their beliefs, thinking and doctrine... I can’t help but notice- Outside of their name, I have never run across the term “saint” ANYWHERE. I mean “Jesus” (or at least some entity going by that same name) at least comes up. But where are the saints? What are Mormon “saints”? I’m going to guess that like so much t
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> They would consider it irrelevant. Any past sins > are washed away at baptism. I figured the sin of the abortion would be forgiven. That seems pretty standard. I was wondering about the future CK corporeality of the aborted fetuses. Sounds like no one is quite sure, they just don’t talk about it and trust God to sort it out.
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New here. Still learning about LDS doctrines, beliefs and practices. Today I am asking about Mormons and abortion. I presume they oppose it among members, probably even for rape and incest. But more specifically, to a convert... how do they view a convert that has had an abortion(s)? Do the sealing and forever family in celestial heaven include the aborted babies? I mean they baptize th
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It really says something if their central dogma (and near as I can ascertain ONLY selling point) of being family centric is failing in their heartland.
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> If > she is the type of person who cares about approval > from authority figures, maybe she will make them > tithe. Personally, I wouldn’t make them keep > their money at your house, though. That is her in a nutshell. She imprints on an older man and chases his approval... up until she decides he is no longer the answer to all of her problems and then she turns on him
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Back at you everyone! I am certainly thankful for this group, and the information and support you have so freely offered.
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> "Bishops vary widely. Some are wonderful, some are > awful, with everything in between." > > We have a word for what Summer described. We call > it "Bishop Roulette". So question- when I meet this guy, any tips on how to tell if he’s wonderful or awful? Things I should ask him about? Etc? And if you’re wondering why I would want to meet thi
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thedesertrat1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They are sneAky. They will by devious and > clandestined means seek to overthrow any rights > that you may legally have. > WATCH OUT FOR THEM!!! This would only be if she got remarried to a Mormon guy, right? They want to seal my kids to him... but on her own, single divorced woman... there is no
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> Sealings are nothing but bullshit, unless you’re > a believer. I agree. My concern is the conflict it would put in their poor little hearts. “Mommy’s new husband will be your Daddy in heaven” is child abuse, IMO.
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[|] Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The normal process for baptism of children at age > 8 is that they are baptized on Saturday evening, > and then confirmed in sacrament meeting on Sunday. > This routinely happens on Fast Sunday which is the > first Sunday of the month. So if it were to happen > before the letter arrives, your daughter wo
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> However... if she should remarry a mormon, then > she might get sealed to her new husband. In > mormonism this means that they would be married > for eternity in heaven. If that occurs, then she > might try to get the kids sealed to her and her > new husband. In mormon belief, that would make the > kids part of her and her husband's new family for > eternity. W
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> Other/misc - retention rates for new converts are > extremely low; we think maybe 10-20% stay after > the first year. After the attention and love > bombing subsides, converts wake up to what they've > signed up for, and usually don't like what they > see. There's a good chance the magic will wear off > for your ex. OMG. Synonymous... I dedicate to you this Elton
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Elder Berry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think focusing on legal stuff is going to make > your situation much more problematic. The kids > might convert and be pushing into being more > Mormon. That’s a chance I’m willing to take. Sorry. The alternative is giving her the future argument that I did not object. To keep one’s right
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> The key here is to communicate with your ex. > "Officially", the church wouldn't allow your kids > to be baptized if you have officially opposed it. > The sticky part is that it's not actually the > Bishops who handle baptisms for people who are > considered "converts". I asked this above, but I don’t care where it is answered. =) Are my ki
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> To me the church is such an obvious scam that if > you sit down with your kids and explain why it is > such a scam they can at least see your side and > then make up their own minds about it. Yeah, I joke that all I need to inoculate myself from falling for Mormonism is one chorus of a Marilyn Manson song. LOL > My advice is to empower your kids with the > informat
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> In the temple mormons perform certain ordinances > that they think are necessary for salvation, > namely endowment and sealing (what you referred to > above as binding). The endowment ceremony is > available for viewing online by the way. According > to mormonism, every person must have these > ordinances as well as baptism performed in order > to reach the highes
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