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No they don't. Repression and codependence build resentment, added onto the protagonist syndrome of most Mormons who think they're going to inherit the highest kingdom simply for paying into the one true Truth club and they're all entitled arrogant pricks with justified dishonesty in order to "even" the score mentality. How many times have you heard stories about doing business with Mor
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Testing faith is by definition immoral.
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Also, epiphanes, people seem very critical of what your goals are for meeting with the missionaries but I think what you're doing is fine. Folks get so sensitive about anti-Mormons challenging missionaries because they think it's a waste of time or they are protective of these vulnerable kids. The fact of the matter is, they are unprotected and unprepared and have been brainwashed by who? Yet
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Struggle, trial, and hard work through service and proselytizing are values of high importance in Mormonism. There isn't anything else in Mormonism except missionary work and sacrificing for your faith like the pioneers. It's a nice thought but you haven't done anything for them except get them assigned to some other busy work. Likely reactivating someone else. And the entire thing is a scam base
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I'm starting to think there is something the church gets out of members resigning and Just sayin' is an agent of theirs trying to get me to comply. I'm not sure why it matters so damn much. I see things differently. Why am I being cajoled to come under heel? It's weird.
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Really? So, you don't think that the church telling you the only way you can walk away is by sending them a letter is playing their game? You believe those are on your terms, do you?
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Just Saying Wrote: > Sorry to burst your "breath of fresh air." You didn't burst anything. I didn't say anything about my children or family or a moral imperative. I even admitted an understanding and sympathy for those who resign and an admission that my petty anger is only to make me feel better. It's like you didn't read what I said but got your panties in a twist over so
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Thanks for making the topic. Very often I see the main opinion pushed that resigning is the best thing. So, it's a breath of fresh air to see the opposite presented. And I am sympathetic to the proposed reasons people resign, the closure it gives them, the way they frame it as a "support" issue, taking their power back. I look at it with the opposite framing. Resigning is playing
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I get a big burst of satisfaction from knowing that I am apostate and still counted among their numbers. Anytime I hear their listed membership number, I laugh and proudly say, "Yeah, and I'm one of them!" springing into a conversation about how the cult lies about everything, including their membership. They know who I am and what I believe yet they keep me on the records? Sounds like
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"Poor guy had come to bring people into the fold and he unwittingly helped one of the sheep leave." Ironically, that's probably true of a lot of missionaries. Because their spiel and sell isn't based on truth. And there's a lot of information about the church that they are not made aware of and even if they were, they are told to convert with "milk before meat" strategy.
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Exmos are a risk to their testimony. It's why there is such a condemnation in the church over "anti-Mormon propaganda" . You're not even supposed to read it or listen to it "for fun" because Satan could trap you. If the missionaries had stuck around and tried to pitch you their sale, you likely would have defended your unbelief at least moderately robustly. That's all the
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Sort of related but I also seem to remember in 2017 that one of the temple interview questions specifically asked about faith in Joseph Smith as a prophet? I am not sure. But there is no reference to him in the whole thing now. Just a reference to "the restoration" .
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Screw that. I'm not going to give up my family just because the church is holding them hostage. The great thing about not being a believer anymore is that nobody gets to tell me how I should live anymore.
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My favorite is the one who has also been playing Jesus Christ in a lot of the church films. John Foss. Most inadvertently truthful the church has ever been about the motivations of not only JS to replace Christ(since when did a prophet need 12 apostles? Jesus Christ was the only one with 12 apostles at his side) but also the organization's aims for Joseph Smith to be equivalent to Christ. By e
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What is truth? Sensory input is a story in my head? Someone's been in lockdown for too long. What truths does Mormonism provide that you couldn't also have while remaining outside of it? I don't think it is useful or productive to support or validate what they are doing to people. Even if you yourself are able to go to the cafeteria and end up just fine. By going, you're letting others kno
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Thank you. I didn't even realize you could paint with paintbrushes on cars. But apparently people do! That's how they make pinstripes?? Well, you learn something new everyday. Thank you everyone.
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Thank you for the attempt offered. I don't know how to airbrush paint and it's not something I'm looking to learn about. I'd need an airbrush gun for that, wouldn't I? I'm more of the paintbrush type of artist, so any aerosol or spray would need several months for me to master in order just to do the project itself. But see, that's why I don't think him asking me will work. The paint laye
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So, my father just commissioned me to design and apply a decal to his car. It's a Plain Jane, so, the idea he wanted was like a woodplane, with like Jane Jetson sitting on it. And I am pretty sure he wants me to paint this straight onto the hood. I'm pretty sure this is something I could do, from the designing and application standpoint. I'm a painter, a cartoonist, and I've done murals befor
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If you post in every topic about your persecution complex, even when it doesn't stay on the topic of the thread, I'm sorry, but who turns who into a cartoon?
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If someone is going to post politically they should be able to defend their position when confronted or challenged.
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If anyone was Satan, it would be Him. He set His "one true church" to be led by liars who manipulate the story to give themselves power over God Himself. That right there sounds like the Great Deceiver to me.
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Hah. I missed you guys.
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Hah. I missed you guys.
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Before my shelf broke, I was leaning left, but right up until this past October, I was essentially a conservative Trump supporter. I have found that the more atheistic content I get into, the more left I go, and the more I see through the old arguments and figures. Like, something about no longer holding things to a divine standard of morality has released me from those moorings. So, I find m
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Do you know if any of the official church material has an ISBN attached? I was watching a Mentally Diseased video where he spoke about used book stores and JW books and he explained the purpose of the ISBN. That each edition of a book gets assigned a new number so book sellers and librarians can know exactly which book and edition they're dealing with. Not having one, it allows those who prod
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Scientologist or no?
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I thank you for the advice but the question will come up, "What do you believe now?" And once I come out, I kinda don't want to continue to lie or hide. But I do like what you have said and how you framed it. I think I will try to frame it very soft and gentle like that("I no longer believe Mormonism") because I don't want to make it become something that they feel they ha
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I consider resigning a separate issue. I am one of those of the opinion that it's all phony anyway(what paperwork or background check is going to use my membership in the LDS church as a piece of proof?). I am not a member. They're the ones who have to "fire" me as a representative if it's that important to them. And I've already left them behind, so, they don't need me involved in that
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I was watching an old video by Jimmy Snow today where he talks to another exMo and asks him questions about when he left and circumstances surrounding that. And their discussion got me thinking. I am the eldest in my family of 5 siblings. The one below me is inactive and New Agey, the one after that is an RM attending BYU-I right now, the next eldest is inactive but falls back on belief, and s
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