The church is a 501c3 organization, and as such, is generally exempt from taxation. They really wouldn't benefit from making a donation to another charity. There could be some esoteric tax benefit, but I highly doubt the church would gain anything from donating a building like this. Unless they wanted to put it on their giving sheet to show how benevolent and charitable the LDS church
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being anti-science may be a religious issue, but my point is it isn't necessary to throw in "the previous administration" comment. Lord knows one could make many inflammatory comments about strategy, science, direction, and policy about any and all administrations, past or present, and all it does is further polarize people. Science sometimes supports certain arguments, and sometime
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I would love to keep politics out of this discussion board on cults and religious brainwashing. I don't think it's healthy to start dividing on lines of past administration vs. this administration, etc. Most politics and politicians leave a lot to be desired. Please let's just focus on pedos and religious indoctrination and the vagaries of past and current Mormon leaders. Oops, there i go
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I have a friend who is 100% in the church, and they live in Saratoga Springs (near Provo), Utah. They just told me this story, and I was laughing so hard. Apparently, a new Stake was formed in their area about 4 years ago (just before Covid). 12 units, and each ward was huge. About 500-600 members in each ward. They were excited about living in this thriving area for the church. Fast fo
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I think a big part of it is about church image, too. I went on a mission to central Europe, and the local members LOVED the missionaries. They felt a sense of pride because we were there, working in their country. They were special, because they were lucky enough to have missionaries not only in their country, but in their tiny little town. The church MUST be strong if there are enough missiona
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I think a big part of it is about church image, too. I went on a mission to central Europe, and the local members LOVED the missionaries. They felt a sense of pride because we were there, working in their country. So while I think a lot of the mission is there to indoctrinate and keep the missionaries tied to the church after their mission, it is also to help the local members in far-off pl
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great points---we've definitely had a lot of discussions around these ideas, but mostly the issues are with me and my wife! We're the ones who are seemingly hanging onto our old indoctrination around purity culture. It's hard to break free of that in my own mind
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great advice---I appreciate it!
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I should also give some background---we've really only been out of the church for about 18 months, and were all-in for 50 years.
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For us, it's mostly #1. It's hard to let go of the purity culture and just let our daughter live her life and find her right person. I guess it's 50 yrs of shaming if you crossed a sexual line and had premarital sex, and trying to let go of that as parents. And a bit of #4 on your list, the emotional part of self-judgement too, but this item most likely stems from the purity culture indoctri
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I totally agree and appreciate the advice. Like I said, the hangups come from me and my wife, and desperately trying to separate ourselves from a lifetime (50 yrs) of Mormon indoctrination. It's really hard to "let go" and not worry about the purity culture hangups. It's been easier with our older kids, as they were already married when we left the church. They had already fou
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Hey all, my wife and I have been dealing with an issue, and I'd love to hear other people's takes on it: My wife and I have realized the church's truth claims as false, and have distanced ourselves from church. (i.e., haven't gone back since Covid shutdown.) We've told our adult kids, but here's the quandary we have--the youngest, graduated from BYU and early 20s, is still out there dating. M
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FYI, this was an interaction with one of the wives of a President of the Seventy, very well-known: My mom had died a few years ago, and my dad, who has held a lot of leadership positions (Bishop, SP, temple leadership locally, etc.), was now a widower. This woman in our ward was very direct and outspoken. She was married to a President of the Seventy guys. It was now her personal mission in
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This has been on my mind lately: Here in Southern CA, there are a TON of members involved in the Senior Care/Elder Care/Managed Care businesses. Facilities mostly, but everything in-between home healthcare and acute managed care. And these members almost all seem to have the following three characteristics: 1. Incredibly wealthy and successful in their businesses. They all live in multi-millio
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