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2 days ago
Twinker
Daybell's attorney questioned Melanie G. about her communication with LDS prosecutor, re: her plan to "protect the church". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkiGoeIh44Q
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13 days ago
Twinker
Correct me if this old info is wrong. My understanding is that when Hildebrandt put her $3 Million home on the market for $5 Million, it was interrupted in order to protect assets meant to be litigated on behalf of the abused children. Since there was no trial, lawyer fees would not have eaten up an excessive amount of the equity, leaving plenty of $$$ for the medical and psychological care
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14 days ago
Twinker
Confession at the last minute? For the sake of his family?
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23 days ago
Twinker
Wonder if that silk handerchief is displayed in a Lawyer Museum somewhere along with the "blue dress".
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27 days ago
Twinker
The Fort founded by John D. Lee. Bundy would certainly have reverence for the place. According to the article, his location was pinpointed to Washington County. The clue was the Iron County school calendar on the fridge. Through an agreement between the Washington County and Iron County school districts, New Harmony students are bussed to Cedar City in Iron County.
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4 weeks ago
Twinker
Voltaire once said, “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” Mormon belief has resulted in a lot of atrocities: Mountain Meadows Massacre Blood Atonement Multiple Indian Massacres Racism Polygamy (Much of it forced) Violence against LGBTQ members Lafferty Brothers Kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart Warren Jeffs Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Kidnap
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4 weeks ago
Twinker
and temple president Steve Caplin.
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6 weeks ago
Twinker
Probably not. But they had some techniques in common. Forgery, reusing paper from old documents, building his reputation through blending of fake and real literary works. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/non-fiction/the-book-forger-joseph-hone-review/
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6 weeks ago
Twinker
How will tscc ever get the temple work done for all of them? If the temple work isn't necessary and it will be taken care of in the next life, why then do members need to do genealogy for the purpose of doing baptisms for the dead? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/largest-human-genomic-family-tree-identifies-nealy-27-million-ancestors-180979657/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=fac
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7 weeks ago
Twinker
No. The poem is no prize winner. I'm surprised it even makes sense. Here's the free website I used. https://poemgenerator.io I fed "Joseph Smith" "sneaky" "Polygamy" "Charisma" "gospel"
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7 weeks ago
Twinker
In the gleam of Joseph Smith's eyes, He wove a web of charisma and guise, With women enchanted by his gospel's charm, He whispered words meant to disarm. Sneaky and sly, he worked his way, Convincing followers to heed and obey, His words like honey, sweet and smooth, Captivated hearts, minds on the move. But beneath the surface, a darkness lay, A man with secrets, led astray, His pr
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2 months ago
Twinker
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2 months ago
Twinker
Corbin Allred, LDS super star, Satan in the temple movie, mental health advocate, good guy, leaves the church. It appears his wife did as well. A new face has been photoshopped over his in the Temple movie. Or so I've heard.
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2 months ago
Twinker
Does it help to know how others have dealt? Andrew Soloman's book "The Noonday Demon" is illuminating, comforting, poetic. It's like someone saying, "This is where we are, this is what it is," while lovingly holding your hand.
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2 months ago
Twinker
instead of tithing 10%, what would you be doing?
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2 months ago
Twinker
......President Brown said to her, 'I had a glorious visit with Harold last night. He is just fine. It was so good to visit with him.'....'"This was such a moving experience for us all. We felt the presence of President Lee's spirit in the temple through the witness of President Brown."' We all have our world view. Mine is that there are no ghosts, spirits, demons, visits, visions, N
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2 months ago
Twinker
A quick look at the MMPI shows it's been updated several times. Originally, the sexual questions were probing homosexuality aspects, but later assessment showed that query was useless. Duh! Some profiles were designed to show over-compliance, dishonesty, schizophrenia, etc. I tried to get results about my profile but was told to come back when the right guy was there. I was told that my ans
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2 months ago
Twinker
I have the same bewildering memory of the MMPI test as an innocent incoming freshman. The most troubling questions were along the lines of, "Is your sexlife satisfactory." If I said "Yes", it was implying I had one, which I didn't. If I said "No", it implied that I had one and it was bad or I didn't have one and wanted one. The Mormon culture of shame an
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2 months ago
Twinker
Interesting. It seems that she received some criticism for sounding "brittle" with respect to her faith crises as expressed in her poetry. It must be hard to be a poet AND a Mormon. How does one express truth?
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2 months ago
Twinker
Why are religious organizations so often associated with sexual abuse and cover ups? Is it a real thing or just the blaring perception?
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2 months ago
Twinker
More from The Marginalia. https://www.themarginalian.org/2024/01/26/when-women-were-birds/?mc_cid=975c495a6b&mc_eid=9a45a1a005
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2 months ago
Twinker
Activist, poet, author, exmormon. From her book, "When Women Were Birds". "Love is to life what life is to death. And so we risk everything trying to touch the ineffable by touching each other. Over and over. Again and again… Patterned behavior alternates like shadow and light… We can change, evolve, and transform our own conditioning. We can choose to move like water rat
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3 months ago
Twinker
I just learned that the victim had begun to question "that church". And some of their children had already left "that church". Husband attended the funeral, was scheduled to speak but changed his mind at the last minute. Also, from another source close by, that the police are moving slowly but surely as they build the case.
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3 months ago
Twinker
It's probably very complex with many contributing factors - genetic, environmental, cultural. But one characteristic seems to appear and reappear. When a person's expectations of their superior place in the grand scheme of things are thwarted, it can and often does lead to frustration aggression and from there, possible violence. I see this happening in our country politically. Religion's
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3 months ago
Twinker
Maybe he didn't like what was going to be in her Sacrament meeting talk? Just a guess. Actually I was told that he was extremely possessive of her time.
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3 months ago
Twinker
The victim and her husband were Mormons and friends with a close friend of mine. This sentence in the latest article about the woman's death and the search warrant gave me chills. I can just hear the husband (who is presumed innocent) saying this to throw off any suspicion of him. "Whittle's husband said the two had stayed up late that Saturday night writing talks they were scheduled
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3 months ago
Twinker
Small check in the mail tomorrow morning.
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3 months ago
Twinker
IMHO the key word: "Exhaustion". Like the exhaustion felt by women controlled by priestholders, who must carry the load. Like the exhaustion felt by closeted gays who must be ever watchful of every word, mannerism, reference, glance. Like the exhaustion of magnifying callings at the neglect of loved ones. LIke the exhaustion of manipulating a tight budget in order to pay tithing.
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4 months ago
Twinker
Wasn't Wendy at age 56 a virgin at the time of her marriage to Rusty? (If my math is correct) How many women are virgins at age 56? Would that be important? Would one still be a virgin if they had been in a same sex relationship? (Not saying Wendy was!!) People marry for all kinds of reason and she wouldn't have been the first to marry a powerful man for her own benefit.
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