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9 years ago
caffiend
Families, spouses, children, extended relatives and in-laws. Neighbors. Deep-pocket political donors. Contractors & vendors. Associated sycophants of varying degrees of closeness. Universities (especially Haaaahvaaahd). Select high-power "non-profits" (Ha!). Elected offices, judgeships, appointments to boards, commissions, agencies, bureaus. Probation officers. Cops, firemen, Pos
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9 years ago
caffiend
They were violating copyright laws, and were ("copy?")-rightfully shut down. But there are a huge number of films that would get a much larger audience for the producers and studios if they just cleaned them up a little. The studios were penny-wise and dollar-foolish to go after them in such a heavy-handed way. Working with such editors would earn them huge, lasting residuals from th
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9 years ago
caffiend
Disagree. Statistically, married people have better quality-of-life indices (health, financial stability, freedom from alcoholism & mental health problems, general happiness, and so on). Lots of studies bear this out. Lots of people will provide lots of exceptions, I'm sure, but I'm discussing this in terms of large population groups. Marriage is no ticket to happiness, but it does im
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9 years ago
caffiend
A kid gets suspended for nibbling his Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun. A kindergarten kid gets taken to the woodshed for drawing a picture of a gun. A teen girl is ordered to turn her "Virginity Rocks!" T-shirt inside out because it may "offend" others. People from out-of-state effectively sue towns with religious displays. This is known as the "heckler's veto.&quo
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9 years ago
caffiend
Thanks for putting the author's name in, and correctly, too. I did a search and there are very few English-language Google hits. It's a beautiful parable. I expect it to get a lot of web traffic. And I wouldn't call it "silly" at all. I've noticed this word appearing quite a bit lately, in a nasty way and usually in political discourse. People (not you, 'hello'!) seem to be saying wi
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9 years ago
caffiend
We just got 33 inches of snow in 7 days--a record! Al Gore happened to walk up my street, and kindly helped shovel me out for a half-hour or so. He said all this snow is cogently explained by AL-gorithms that nobody except Prof. Jonathan Gruber of M.I.T. understands.
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9 years ago
caffiend
Sitting on a hillside on a nice sunny day in Vietnam and getting blasted by two grenades. Then turning and seeing an NVA regular slide behind a tree and start shooting at me. I sure shot up that tree. He sure shot up me. With all the treatment I later needed (especially painkilling meds) I never, ever considered relying on Christian Science (my family's cult) for "treatment." And
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9 years ago
caffiend
Click "Message List" and at the top you'll see "Glossary and Abbreviations," not visible when you're inside a thread, however. Check the stickies for the rules and regs while you're at it. Nice to meet you, mormonantiwife. Any relation to mormonantigone? (*self-serving chuckle*)
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9 years ago
caffiend
Roman Polanski gets away with it because he's a "brilliant artist" with the right critical accolades (e.g. Upper West Side Playwrite/Critic David Ives). Jeffrey Epstein gets away with it because he's a rich "financier" with the right political connections (e.g. Bill Clinton). Pedophiles got away with abusing altar boys for generations. Only now are the British seriously inv
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9 years ago
caffiend
Your post suggested something to me: How many new converts, who emotionally make it past Baptism and through their Endowments, go home with a few sets of fresh, new garments and find that half their wardrobe is now off-limits? And how many will continue with the garments through the itch phase to a point where they're no longer irritating? BIC Mormons have watched their parents and others w
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9 years ago
caffiend
When I come legitimately into possession of a book I regard as obnoxious, I simply put it in the bottom of my recycle bin.
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9 years ago
caffiend
If the Patriots brought their weather, it would be a snowbowl. Sure enjoying our "global warming" in New England! A few more feet of snow just might curtail the victory rioting at UMass/Amherst. nawwwww...
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9 years ago
caffiend
n/t
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9 years ago
caffiend
Cahomegrown Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Having a hard time picturing retired older people > teaching college kids. Shouldn't they be gardening > or napping? > > Anyone have answers/comments? Yes I have a comment: I'm retired, work part-time, work-out, volunteer, occasionally teach adult Sunday School, and am working on a novel and
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9 years ago
caffiend
"If a man and wife divorce in Cache Valley, are they still brother and sister?" Moving East one county, do you folks who hail from the Logan area consider inbreeding a common phenomenon in Cache Valley? And if so, in what towns would this be most common?
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9 years ago
caffiend
Search it on Utube. There are versions where the relationships are diagrammed as the song is song. I STILL can't figure it out!
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9 years ago
caffiend
What you've said, no-mo-lurker, is true, but much of it goes back several decades. As I said in my post above, they are having trouble keeping grips on their own members. Even Katie Holmes bolted, although with intricate planning and significant risk. But broad legal and violent offensives against critics outside their organization is less viable. The general public and law enforcement agencies a
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9 years ago
caffiend
Just be alert to companies (Hershey's perhaps?) which acquire licensing rights for a prestige name (Cadbury's in this case), but fail to use the right ingredients or recipe. For example, Annheiser-Busch buys up the names for loads of microbrews and "legacy" beers (e.g. Narraganset, Iron City and Genoese), but what they put in those bottles just ain't the same. You may see "Ca
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9 years ago
caffiend
But TSCC has just stepped on it, and will find that it's steeper, with a lot more grease on it, than they ever imagined. I'm old enough to remember when the only (publicly articulated) part of "gay rights" was "tolerance." "Just let us be," said the prominent gays who somehow constituted the "spokespersons" for the movement, whatever that was. Simple &q
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9 years ago
caffiend
In stasis at best. And I will watch "Going Clear" some time; all cults fascinate me. I'm amused and annoyed at a headline about how the audience cheered the "courage" it took to produce this film. I very much doubt Scientology has the power to seriously harass enemies outside the cult. They can only focus on their own wavering members. I'll be impressed with Hollywood's
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9 years ago
caffiend
n/t
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9 years ago
caffiend
They may be rather humble in their own way, and thus not "egoTistical." But the EGOISTICAL world view has them, pridefully or humbly, in the center of things. People and activities revolve around them. But to not look them in the eye? It suggests that scene in "The King and I" where Anna is instructed to avert her eyes from the King, and to always be sure that her head is b
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9 years ago
caffiend
--and appeared to JS. That would make him a deceiving spirit (1 Tim. 4.1, 1 John 4.1) And Satan masquerades as a spirit of light (2 Cor. 11.14). And Paul was emphatic about being not being deceived with "another gospel" (Gal. 1.6-9), going so far as to repeat himself in quick order. Have any of you ever discussed these verses, or arguments, with TBMs? What is their typical response,
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9 years ago
caffiend
First, MCR, I didn't intend my remarks to be aggressive. But the atheist position, usually, is that belief in the orthodox (or "traditional") Jesus Christ has no foundation, is a baseless myth, and, by implication, such belief is irrational or anti-rational. I read such sentiments, phrased in various ways, and feel that I am being put down for such. Christianity is tolerated when it
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9 years ago
caffiend
The atheists will jump into this thread, several of them more aggressively than MCR, above. Their position is that you're just exploring one myth ("fairy tale") after rejecting another. I'm a born-again Christian. I see Orthodox Christianity as"connecting the dots" between the physical and the supernal. My recommendation is to read the New Testament in a modern translation,
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9 years ago
caffiend
I have been reading some fiction, including (*ahem*) LDS Romance, to get an idea of what young LDS women read, since I have an LDS character with a love line. One was an overtly LDS romance, "Waiting For You" (Camille Halverson). Really, really, bad. I knew it was an HEA ("happily ever after") but I overdosed on the saccharine. When the heroine is comatose from a car accident,
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9 years ago
caffiend
Calling people "silly" is demeaning. I see the difference between pantheism and atheism as being seven of one, to a half-dozen of the other, on a scale of 1 to 100, but they're each entitled to respectful disagreement. If pantheism denies deity such things as consciousness, self-awareness, personality, creativity, will, and moral purpose, than it is, functionally, atheism. Perhap
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9 years ago
caffiend
If he has good hands for fine detail work, and can pick up a knowledge of chemistry and (important!) history AND art history, then he might look into arts/antiques restoration, appraisal, dealing. Not many openings in the field, but for people who will devote themselves to it, it can be both personally and financially rewarding. He should start looking for apprenticeships early.
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9 years ago
caffiend
MJ Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nobody really cares if you disagree. Few if any > really believe in Pantheism. At least atheism > rates a spot on the poll! There may be more Pantheists out there, but in our increasingly irreligious society, where people concoct their own belief systems "cafeteria style," they be Pantheists/pantheistic
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9 years ago
caffiend
Cold-Dodger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why would God start his restoration off with this > bad of a representation? Is he that desperate that > he couldn't find anyone else? I have no problem with God using a sinful wretch to do His work. Augustine, Franklin Graham, and Francis of Assisi come to mind. But when God grabs somebody by the scruff
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