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11 years ago
rhgc
A heck of a lot more impressive than the fake marble in the NYC temple!
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11 years ago
rhgc
I would disagree because I know that if I ingest too much sugar, it causes me to be depressedm clinicallly depressed. For me it is a one-to-one correlation. Since I know many other people with a similar effect, the drinking of sodas IS causative and not merely a result of depressed people tending to drink soda. Similarly, I know that if I drink coffee, a do not get depressed. Also, in Utah where
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11 years ago
rhgc
JS and BY had the Danites. The difference is that the pope's executees in the above period were generally murderers and the death was less painful.
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11 years ago
rhgc
`More important, while TSCC has now approved depression-causing sodas, it still forbids depression-fighting coffee. Clearly, TSCC thrives on depressing people. The general doctrine of having to earn the CK is bad enough, but it compounds this by the Wow. Make no mistake, people can die from depression. Utah has the highest rate of depression and a high rate of suicide. For each life saved by a lo
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11 years ago
rhgc
A problem I had with Mitt was that he had that exact thinking, the "I know" when he did not. Remember his economic plan which he "knew" would work. Much too sure. TSCC thinking is defective.
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11 years ago
rhgc
Ironically, when we state what is really knowledge, the TBMs say we are "prideful". I was accused of that in the "love council" because I mentioned that some of what I knew came from studying at MIT. The former regional authority felt he had to say he had as many degress as I had so I was being "prideful". Of course, he never heard a top Egyptologist lecture. His deg
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11 years ago
rhgc
Actually, the health benefits of tea and coffee are such that not drinking them may cost you your life. I am referring to the fact that it reduces one fatal type of prostate cancer up to 80%, may reduce adult onset diabetes up to 50%, reduce depression, permit you to drive more safely, and delay Alzheimers. I don't know of any kosher rule which actually harms you as does the WoW.
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11 years ago
rhgc
He could avoid BYU by telling the bish he violated the WoW (whether he did or not) or anything else.
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11 years ago
rhgc
What happened to her DH? Did he split to find someone with 9 kids?
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11 years ago
rhgc
The Bible is not all mythology. There is historical and moral truth in it which has had a profound impact on civilization. It is true that some adherents take it too literally in parts which are not to be taken literally, However one may feel about the extremism of some bible supporters, it does not excuse extremism in the other direction. I am sure the series is not about "finding Noah's ar
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11 years ago
rhgc
The use of allegory is quite common in the Bible. The BoM lacks such allegorical stories. Basically, the story is how the favored people easily went astray. In the NT the relationship between a husband and wife is used to describe Christ and the Church. While the story in Ezelied may weem weird, it does convey the understanding that, ultimately, even the sins of Israel are forgiven.
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11 years ago
rhgc
The "God" particle does not, can not, and will not explain spirit, a component of man.
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11 years ago
rhgc
Actually, we can test some values. But we rarely do so.
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11 years ago
rhgc
Well, I knew not to read it because just a page or two was enough to create real doubt. Took over 25 years to read it ONE time. I told the council that it was one of the three worst-written books I had ever read - and I never finished the other two beyond a couple of pages. That last point of not finishing the other two was not told to the council. In fact, the BoM is the WORST book I ever had to
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11 years ago
rhgc
I only got the final confirmation but, then again, I had copied the SP and he copied the bish. One one minute phone call and that was it. The bish already knew what I believed (Not in TSCC etc.).
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11 years ago
rhgc
It would seem more a sin AFTER marriage. Presumably, a TBM has no other outlet before being sealed. After that, one is not giving everything to the DW.
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11 years ago
rhgc
None of the BoM is true as history. But some of the stories of the bible are both literally and historically true. Some are not meant to be literally true and that is obvious. The dynamic development of Judaic understanding of God is shown in the Bible. The stories of Genesis are just that, stories. Only the BoM forces one to take the Tower of Babel literally, for example, because of the Jaredite
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11 years ago
rhgc
Drink black coffee and you won't be depressed! Soda increases likelihood of depression and diabetes and coffee reduces them. TSCC approves soda and rejects coffee. Figures.
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11 years ago
rhgc
Generations ago there was a law, I think in New York, that required meals with alcoholic beverages. The bars, therefore, served "Jones Law" sandwiches - not meant to be actually eaten. The solution is for Utah restaurants to ask customers if they want popcorn which will be 10 cents. Then, they can serve the drinks! Use some ingenuity.
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11 years ago
rhgc
Dante described more degrees of glory. The Masons have a great many degrees. My grandfather was at least a 32nd degree Mason. If JS had lived longer he would have come up with who knows how many degrees of the CK. I believe there is only one level in heaven. The more one dreams up separated degrees the less we will know anyone. One thing I do know is that JS isn't there.
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11 years ago
rhgc
Gee, is there anyone for whom reformed Egyptian is the mother tongue?
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11 years ago
rhgc
Actually, the reason for the great increase in female applicants is that the number turning of age and available is triple the normal number. The number of males is an increase in only 75% because half of the eighteen-year olds will not be eligible until they graduate from high school, meaning with a time-averaged delay of three months. As pointed out, these are temporary increases and not only a
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11 years ago
rhgc
1. I gave my TBM wife a very nice cross pendant for our 43rd wedding aniversary and have difficulty getting her to wear it. 2. The idea of an icon for TSCC is to put a statue of Moroni with the dollar sign etc etc. BTW, I think Moroni is already on the pendant for the girls. Ugh. 3. The reasoning against a cross pendant underlying TSCC is just plain wrong.
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11 years ago
rhgc
As an attorney reading the evidence, it was much more than we see in criminal cases and conviction was likely.
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11 years ago
rhgc
Under the technical definition of "apostasy" in the church handbook, they are not supposed to excommunicate anyone on the basis that they tell someone why they don't believe, but only if one misrepresents church doctrine, or unites with another church, etc., or openly criticizes the church leaders. If they do excommunicate because you explain why you no longer believe, appeal to the fir
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11 years ago
rhgc
First, more suits will be sold because many mishies from Utah have only been wearing white shirts and ties and now need them for their missions. Of course, smart ones will buy on E-Bay.
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11 years ago
rhgc
Liberty jail was earlier - in Missouri. The smashing of the press etc. was in Nauvoo. The charge of treason was in both cases. JS was a bad apple.
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11 years ago
rhgc
Between the first and second time in the temple I forgot my own temple name. I have an excellent memory for everything except things I am not supposed to repeat, confidences and so forth. The result of the promise not to disclose anything about the temple ceremony was such that I carefully tried to forget everything. The only embarassment similar was when I went to pick up my date for the MIT jun
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11 years ago
rhgc
Among other things, they were charged with treason for ordering an attack by the mormon militia on the non-mormons including at least one death. There are numerous records of the affidavits used for their arrest which can be found and will surely be recited by other posters. In other words, Joseph and Hyrum should have faced the ultimate punishment.
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