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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I think HIDING THE TRUTH is also another ruse to keep the members locked into the quagmire of busyness. Hide the truth under layers and layers of mind games, FAIR, and unending changes so that it is not simple to come up with say, what really happened way back when. I know people who have just given up---it is too much work to research or even learn how to research correctly because they ar
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I'd put money (all of my 2 cents) that ole Joe would even tell you he had a revelation to prove that his package was the biggest in Zion. That comes with being so o o righteous, don't you know.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
This subject became more evident to me daily as I became an ex-mormon. Many times words have been expressed openly around me about how easy it must be NOT to be a mormon who has to fulfill the requirements of being in the lard's chosen true church, openly implying that by becoming an ex-mo you are choosing to be self-centered and a lazy bum. Other times, these same sentiments are expressed in a
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
....you have the goon squad question your whereabouts because they have seen you leave your home in your own car around 9:30 a.m. four Sundays in a row and know that you did not march into your own neighborhood mormoney ward. This made me feel angry and violated to say the least----who exactly had been watching me??? Did they live next door or around the corner??? Were they told to spy on m
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
The mormoney church cannot let go for two simple reasons----money being first and arrogance second. My suggestion would be to be very concise in speaking with the bishop telling him to move forward NOW with the paperwork. And, from my experience, do not give him a chance to ask any questions. In retrospect, I so wish I had had the presence of mind to do this when I was asked, in all serious
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
This never ending cycle of watching friend's or family's children while members go visit teach, to the temple, canning, etc. etc. is a site to behold. Watching it unfold is enough to make you stay in bed for a month, so how do those who keep up the tempo not have a monthly nervous breakdown? When I was sort of going to mormoney church, this was all new to me. Did mormon moms not care that they
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
how to vote, check words you cannot utter, check age you can date, check
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
New information to me that Joe Smith had relatives that took part in the Salem Witch Trials. According to Mark Hines, "The testimony of these relatives of Joe Smith hanged these girls as witches." Couple this information to the fact that both Joe Smiths, senior and junior, were heavily documented to be involved in using magic to take advantage of others tricking them out of their ha
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Stbleaving made me think of another way to finish the thread. The mormon church is a social club with unwritten social rules that you must discover and follow. And, if you do not choose to follow these rules' you are not welcome through the doors. This was the case for me. In my childhood I attended church, mostly the fun activities, with my friends. My home life sucked so these were fun o
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
A great post. Thanks. My Halloween wish is that some of the occult stuff ole Joe believed in might just work its magic on my TBM family members and happy exmo's they would become. And a fun Halloween to everyone.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
The mormoney church is a social club with haves who, because they are blessed with money. must be the people who are being the most righteous because the righteous are blessed with money, soooo..... the have nots listen to and follow them. I witnessed this vicious cycle in the ward I was in. The most wealthy were the ones that the under dogs idolized whether they deserved it or not.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Braggin Briggy was such a nice, pleasant, kind person wasn't he? The words "hewn down" makes me envision field workers cutting down the wheat, and so I envision Big Bully Briggy ordering his minions, like his Danite groupie, to take care of all who dare have a different opinion than he does.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
It is also one of my favorite shows, and Villager this might be one of your "golden opportunities" to make mega bucks by sending the show ideas from moronville. You could include tales of intrigue from the Hoffman fiasco and murders that resulted, the Singer clan, the LeBarons, the Bradshaws, endless pyramid schemes and fleecings and murders connected. OMG it just goes on and on,
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I think those vests should be worn at moron conference by all the l5 so that there will be no mistake made on their international broadcasts that they are busilly doing the good works they think they do. And I hope they DO NO look good in yellow.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
The morons manage to take the fun out of everything. That is the one area I'll give them the gold medal.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Any one out there who has inside info and maybe some comparison statistics? That info would be interesting to take a look at. Years ago, approx. 35 years or so, a relative of mine was a member of the Salt Lake Police force, his position being up there fairly high on the ladder. His info then was that Utah County and Bountiful, with there high number of mormon members, were over the top whe
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Well, if you need a doctor pleeze do not choose this guy.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
My bic childhood fluctuated from my dad chasing me with his belt while hurling insults at me or pulling out a gun threatening me and my mostly older siblings that we better tow his line or else "pow", we'd be sorry. Later there was mostly eerie silence and sarcastic remarks from my depressed mom after she had left my dad. No Mormoney church for her then---she was too embarrased that
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Censorship---don't you just love it? I hope at one point that librarian was called on what she was doing maybe by a principal with some sense and well, principles.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Maybe because I am just plain fixated on how I hate and despise ( I don't even know that those words are strong enough) the fact that the MormoneyInc. sends out teens on missions when they are just plain not old enough to be exposed to some of the adult experiences they are bound to be faced with. This is one of those experiences. Steve, glad that you did not wake up needing stitches! Hait
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I would put money down on a wager that ole Joe had a number of additional special "clubs" other than the ones we know about, where people, as anagrammy said, received " free passes," thereby allowing them special privileges and a guaranteed place on the highest rung of the celestial ladder while sealing their compliance and their lips. Sure makes you think of the 15 of toda
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Yes very, very ugly. And I'm thinking that they are just lying again about stuff. It is really not a temple, but a bomb shelter for the 15.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
By lying. you're in the company of all mankind. How about reporting on your temple excursion? Would enjoy hearing what you thought----and PLEASE no lying!
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Of course, we know the Mormoney church received their revelation to change their policy on race because they would have lost their tax exempt status. It was very obvious. ALWAYS and ALWAYS money and power is the cult's motivator, not caring about others or spirituality. Even when they pushed for women to have the vote it was so that they would have the numbers; they needed the women's vot
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I also agree based on my own actions. I sent my loved ones a letter thinking that it would open many doors to communication between myself and them. Did this happen? Nope. And I felt at the time that I had written a letter that was benign and not angry. I did ask them to please take the challenge and look into both sides of mormonism. I was stunned there was no reply. I have reread the l
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I am so sorry that you have this hurt in your life. I also have someone in my life who is so brainwashed by the cult that this person has forgotten some important things taught to them when they were young. I try to remind myself when I get down about it, that as much as I want to, I have no way to wave a magic wand and make things different. The Mormoney church is an extremely dangerous cul
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
For a time I was active in the Mormoney church because I chose to be. A lot of my friends were in the church, and I saw the church as a possible pathway to family happiness, which I had not experienced growing up. So I married in the temple and found the temple very, very weird and somewhat frightening. It did not take me long to discover, after having a couple of children, that what I had bee
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
IMHO, who Glen Beck cares about first and foremost is Glen Beck. He is a con-man who wants to suck you in with his antics. I personally think that, while he advocates strong-armed tactics (even with innocent children, of all things) that he would be the first to run. He is a bully plain and simple.
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
That is a statement that I have heard and continue to hear over and over again. That they owe so much to the Mormoney church, that they would be in deep doo doo, lost in the clutches of drugs and alcohol, if they were not members, that their family ties are so much stronger because of this common bond in the church, and on and on it goes. And they are talented people who could be doing so muc
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10 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I love the statement by nickname, "That's the best part of being an atheist! No one assigns a purpose to your life, you get to go out and create your own." And also the quote from Carl Sagan, " To live in the hearts we leave behind is to never die." I LOVE the freedom of being my own person----the freedom from guilt and the freedom to be my own explorer on this planet
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