A guy in the late 70's early 80's giving a testimony about the evils of satellites. Because even if you don't have cable TV, the satellites are beaming R rated movies all around you wherever you go. Those meetings were always torture for me. What seemed like forced quivering voices to sound more overcome by the spirit. The boring stories. The bragging about vacations or anything, then hurryin
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I left church and the job at the same time. But Family Services didn't know I left the church. And they kept referring clients to me in my private practice. Now I'm a professor.
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kenc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I was > ordered to bring my CES paycheck stubs to the > stake president to verify that I was making X > amount of money but only paying Y amount of > tithing. So he could designate the amount of > tithing I would have to pay, to be worthy to stay > employed with CES. > My bishop was much easier
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After I graduated from my masters degree, and would no longer have a dual relationship, I saw my old professor for counseling. She was the most knowledgeable person that I had ever met for understanding human behavior. She told me that my family was a danger to my mental well being. And advised that I stay away from them. I thought my family treated me wrong. But that dumping them was ki
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I don't believe the op was genuine, due to their asking for advice, and never responding to any of it. So I won't waste much effort. But as a former therapist for sex-offenders I agree with some of the advice here. Others, not so much. A person that has never offended against a child, doesn't need to stay away from children as many advised, in my opinion. We all have fantasies and inclination
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A post about labias, and this is all I get? This post should be much more exciting!
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I last went to church in 2008. I didn't live in Utah, and moved out of the country in 2011. So I never even see a mormon. I don't know who the president is, or who it was before. Getting out of the country gets you so far away from mormonism. Last I really remember, Hinckley was the guy. I liked him pretty much, but was shocked when he lied about people becoming Gods. So that and building
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I thought about it yesterday and thought, if Venus is bright in the evening, and you walked towards it, it would seem to move west too as you walked. You would never get to it. If you see where it is in New York, get on a jet and go for a couple of hours and get off, Venus is still out ahead of you. You can never get there. So the most that could happen was the wise men headed a certain direc
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My priest quorum advisor was a somewhat pious and arrogant custom home builder. When I was 20 I got a job working for him as a carpenter, which I already was for a couple of years prior. In a rush to beat contractual deadlines on some houses, he'd have us work more than 40 hours on some weeks, then work less on the next weeks. On my first check that it happened, I noticed that we didn't g
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The couple can choose an "All White" ceremony, and make everyone do the whole getup.
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I agree with all points of you response Nightingale.
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"You can see a beer can." Was that the mormon or the Russian that came up with that as an example?
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logged out today Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Without rigid rules to follow, mormons would be > unable to function. They are unable to think for > themselves. Yup, from the workers point of view it probably went like this, "I'm an elite mormon, I was chosen by God to work in his holy place, when I was trained they said don't give pieces o
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Yes, it will be. We landed on the moon when I was in Kindergarten. For all of my elementary years, kids said that they wanted to be a scientist, astronaut, firefighter, or policeman. No kids want to be a scientist anymore. I'm living in another country in Asia now. And my wife, who is local and has a PhD in physics, teaches the brightest and pretty much genius students of the country.
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I've left most mormon trauma behind after 13 years. But a random woodworking thing set a memory bomb off in my head. The woodworking thing made me think of the nice woodwork in the Manti temple. Then the memory bomb went off. I was invited to a Temple wedding ceremony. I'm never a late person, but I don't like being early either. So I was cutting it close, but on time. When I was putting
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Thanks for the reply summer. This one was the tip of the iceberg. I had child rapes and many other way over the line ones. But this one that I couldn't figure out which side of the line was the one that stuck. Because of my indecision.
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I choose a third choice. The chance to grow up normal, without all the guilt that comes with being a normal human, if you are a mormon. That's what I wish wasn't robbed from me. I curse the great grandparent who doomed as all to mormonism.
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There has to be opposition in all things. All the bad things are because of Satan. So what if Lucifer didn't get jealous? There's be no earth. No test. No savior. Then we'd have no progression, right? We should be thanking Satan? That would be a weird prayer wouldn't it?
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Old topic that seems to have run its course. But it seems that the OP had an easy answer to report if it here. Just to clear up some misconceptions, as a reporter, you don't have to dig for evidence and document the abuse etc. All you have to do is report it. Whether the agency you reported it to did anything or not, isn't your concern as a reporter. It could easily be as a caring human, but
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I can't remember exactly how it is in Utah, but in Colorado I was surprised to find that abuse of the elderly wasn't a mandated reporter thing. And I don't think that in Colorado you would be a mandated reporter for an adult, who had something happen as a child. In Colorado, it would only be for a child, when they are a child.
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scmd1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hesitate to bring this up, but in my > jurisdiction, the mandate to report only extends > to a person's professional capacity. I have no > idea what is the law in OP's jurisdiction. > Regardless, reporting in this case is the right > thing to do. In two states I've lived in, you are a mandatory re
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I was leaving at about the same time as you. This place was a great help then.
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I'm doing great. An example of how much better life gets after leaving, not worse. I hope yours is going great too.
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It used to be thought of as infallible and as close to perfect as you can get. So the Historical is what got me out. Perhaps the internet made it not as shocking now.
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I rarely have come here in the past ten years. But was pretty active before about 2011. It seems that when I was active here, most of the posts were newly minted exmos, still in shock and bewildered, wondering what to do. And people posting new discoveries of shocking information about the church. Some posts about high profile excommunications and such. Reading the first five pages here t
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So many people get confirmation when they pray, that God wants exactly the same thing that they wanted anyway.
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People want to give up the responsibility of being able to understand. And because they can't understand, then they have faith. And they put their faith in other people who say that they can understand. That makes them ripe for a predatory relationship.
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Shinehah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have always had the belief that Mormons can make > a faith promoting story out of anything. > I just don't see how they can do that with this > incident. > Maybe my long held belief has been exposed as > untrue? As the naked man was bashing the sacrament table, and his man bits flopping wildly
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I had previously blocked every sibling on fb after getting banned from a funeral, and other crap. And with my parents and only sibling that I deeply cared about dead, I considered myself an orphan. But I had kept a niece and nephew who were cool. And some aunts and cousins. But I got tired of feeling like someone was looking over my shoulder. So this week I blocked every relative that I co
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PHIL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They DO leave you alone unless > of course your a Steve Benson or have clout. > Very un cult like to do that. My ward in Denver in 2008 were assigning people to call members who hadn't come to church for a few Sundays, to try and get them back. Cultish.
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