This worked for me, won't work for everyone. Every now and then I'd talk about how silly it is to wear pioneer underwear while we were both wearing them. I'd talk about how if JS was doing his thing in the 1900's, we'd be wearing some that didn't look like the 1800's. When I needed new tops, I bought Hanes and still wore the mormon bottoms. When she was used to that, I told her that s
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#1- they lie and are deceptive. Don't think a real God would need that. #2- The cult like behavior. #3- JS boinking all the hotties.
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No talk about the starving kids in Africa?
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Another thing in that dissertation that was interesting was how good the lay people felt who were volunteered to help with the manual. He posted parts of email communication between committee members and correlation. I'm not going to go back and find the quotes, but it was the typical feelings of gratitude, led by the spirit, feeling the spirit, doing this great work, etc. etc. etc. The s
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Christmas parties with all their friends who are also praise the lord types becomes a, "let me tell you about Jesus" thing every year.
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Makurosu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > It's everywhere. Monson is just trying to sound > like the scriptures. Good point. Now that he's the big guy, it'll probably get worse.
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I thought the new manuals were just fine. Not thought provoking or anything, but just fine. I had no idea how deceptive it all was till I had to give a lesson out of it that mentioned the Kirtland Bank failure. I knew by then from reading No Man Knows My History that the lesson was so deceptive. It pissed me off to be expected to teach such deception, and I put too much truth into the lesson
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I read the 500 page Doctoral Dissertation written by Daymon Smith, mentioned in a thread by Nick Humphrey yesterday. http://bycommonconsent.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/daymon-smith-dissertation.pdf It was long, and hard to get through, but helped answer a question I had about how the LDS church manages to indoctrinate so well. How was I indoctrinated, and inoculated against hearing the tru
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So Monson was using it in the sixties, and was fond enough of it to use it twice in one sentence. If anyone runs into its use prior to the sixties, let us know. It would be kind of fun if this could be hung on Monson, but he might have been the new guy in the sixties trying to copy the speech of someone higher up.
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I didn't read past the first one, the end of it said, "by the inspiration and revelation of the Lord. YES I SPEAK OF THAT PLAN WHICH WILL BRING US VICTORY; EVEN THE CORRELATION PROGRAM OF THE CHURCH.” That part was supposed to be exactly what followed the comma after McKay. He managed to get two "Even's" out of one comment.
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I've always hated the mormon use of the word "Even" when talking about Christ of a prophet. Example, "Our lord and savior, even Jesus Christ". I wondered where that started. I still don't know, but Monson was doing it in the 60's. Here's a Quote from a statement about the correlation department. Correlation was called “The Battle Plan,” and on the opening pages
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Many people are mean disagreeable people who put on a veneer of niceness. Sometimes they accidently let their real self out, not the facade person. Once that happens, they quickly apologize and make excuses in an attempt to make people think that it was out of character for them to say such things. If he had the guts, he'd say something like, "I'm sorry that my thoughts got out and c
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I'm solar powered. If it's a bright sunny day, and warm, I could lose a job, get my car towed, and get a ticket for Jaywalking, and be just fine. A dim cold fall day and just walking out to a cold car with it still dark at 7:00am is enough to ruin my day. I kind of have a love hate relationship with fall. I absolutely hate seeing the first leaves turn colors. I hate it, hate it, hate it. I wa
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You may have stayed logged in once, and he took over, or he knows your password and can log in at will.
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I posted hi "fagot" one because of the similarity to a psycho emailing a poster on here earlier this week. Either the "fagot" one, or the letter from the police is the best one. The school note was good too. I think he's great.
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Then I thought I'd go to hell, but looked sometimes anyway. Loved it, followed by overwhelming guilt that was miserable. Now I like it sometimes. There is nudity, and graphic sex. I like both if done right. Seeing graphic sex filmed in a manner that is believable, makes the woman look equal in the relationship, isn't cartoonish, and is believable is hard to find. When I have seen it, it's
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you aren't as TBM as you think you are, a TBM wouldn't even let themselves ask such questions. Their mind just won't go there. I didn't read any of the others responses, no time right now, but I'm sure others have probably already given you great arguments about the writing ability. My contribution is with the social aspect. There is a strange dynamic when groups and belief comes into pla
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I almost posted very adult, not slightly adult, but then thought that I'd be making work for Susan having to come and remind us to keep it pg-13, so I didn't. I was going to write what might really mean your husband is watching porn. Things like, if he pulls out right at the end and blanks on your blank. And you should moan with pleasure when you get blank on your blank. If he thinks you
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As you stated, there can be a certain amount of expected conformity and shunning with school kids, that's true. The LDS church ratchets it up to the point where it decides what you can drink, how to dress, how many earrings you can have, an assigned amount of money you are required to give them, who can be at your wedding, etc. etc. It will also try to get your own family to shun you if y
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In the area that I live in now, a missionary started having an affair with a member lady that was making dinner for the Elders on a regular basis. She left her husband and kids and ran away to a hotel with the missionary for a long time. Don't know what the end of the story was, but I'll bet mom and dad hearing that he ran off with a married lady and can't be found was not the funnest call fo
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I'd love to play one of those people like the guy who does this blog plays them. http://www.27bslash6.com/foggot.html Look how he ends it when the person says that they won't read his email. I'll bet you could have done the same and had a little fun. I think perhaps one of those people with no bodies is whispering to me, because while reading your post I couldn't help but wonder what a
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I don't remember if it was Utah, or another state, but years back they were in trouble for taking tithing on welfare. The state wanted the money back, as it was given for the need of the people on welfare, not to give to the church.
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michael Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > on any and all reactions (if any) to your post? > > Thanks. So far there is a big fat nothing. Funny how they can pontificate so much on what courage is, but not be able to demonstrate it.
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A TBM relative posted that she needed to give a talk on Courage in sac meeting and wanted help with people's ideas about courage. She got about 5 other people posting about courage for ideas. Here is one of the responses. "I'm with Janet. We all know we are afraid of things, what we need is the strength to overcome those fears. I always liked the quote "Where faith is, fear
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If I did in fact know everything that I was attesting to, I would have signed it in a heartbeat. But I wouldn't sign attesting to something that was an outright lie. You asked him to lie, and he wasn't comfortable lying. That's fair enough. If he wouldn't sign for a TBM in the same situation, then he's just a rare mormon with great boundaries. If he'd lie for a TBM, but not for you, then
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At some point people must have made their own. With BY sending followers to far off places, they must have been making their own, there would have been no way to distribute them all over. So does anyone know at what point there was an official directive telling people that they can no longer make their own, and that they have to start buying them?
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Mine was at work. I worked for the LDS church and on a break I said something about polygamy and JS. This had nothing to do with our job whatsoever. This person still went to the supervisor and snitched on me. Supervisor called SLC and talked to his supervisor to see what to do about me. The answer must have been to try to get me to quit. He called me in for a meeting and it was all about
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