Back in the 1950s it was 2 years supply. Now they call for 3 months, but most people still refer to their year's supply.
Forum: Recovery Board

The Living Traditions festival is going on in SLC this weekend. I think it is one of the best local summer festivals here. I think the Wasatch Front has a half dozen Brazilian churrascarias, three Ethiopian/Eritrean restaurants, several Peruvian restaurants. There is a Slavic food store and an Middle Eastern food store within 2 blocks of 4500 S and 900 E, and close by, in downtown Holladay,
Forum: Recovery Board

"Women and Authority", by Maxine Hanks, 1992 "Ordain Women" movement of the last couple years. The NYTimes ran two excellent long form articles just a couple months ago, iirc. "Housewife to Heretic" by Sonja Johnson, 1981, detailing the LDS Inc anti-ERA campaign. Newspaper accounts of the firing of Cecelia Conchar-Farr at BYU in Spring, 1993. She was the
Forum: Recovery Board

I can't tell if the guy thought he was being witty, or if there was some weird Rube Goldberg chain of logic where that made sense in his head, and he was serious. This is why it is so hard to parody Mormons.
Forum: Recovery Board

That's sort of like asking how big is a rock. Depends on the TBMs gender, relationship with ward members, personality type, luck of the draw on what sorts of people are in the ward, etc. I would expect a combination of pity, fear, and encouragement to the TBM to buck up and carry on the good fight in spite of being shackled with an apostate spouse. Fear because they think the spouse might be
Forum: Recovery Board

What's all this talk about our poor little babies having their medical info and personal problems posted, and if I were the parent, blah blah blah. I know it is a hard habit to break, but they are not children anymore, they are legal adults by the time they are on missions. Parents have no standing to file a HIPAA complaint or anything else if the adult child is mentally competent, which they
Forum: Recovery Board

Of course they monitor the Internet. So do you. So do I. It is called "reading". With the firestorm here over the mission blogs, posting of names, addresses, URLs and phone numbers, people at COB will notice. This surprises you?
Forum: Recovery Board

I was in Brazil about the same time Randy was in Australia, and we also had to pay for our ticket home if we left early. As a percentage of income, flying was considerably more expensive then than it is now. Having to pay for an international ticket was a real burden. You can just show up at a US embassy or consulate and tell them you are stranded, and they will get you back to the US. They
Forum: Recovery Board

n/t
Forum: Recovery Board

On the bright side, it appears many of the missionaries do now realize it is a volunteer position, and they can just quit. I didn't truly appreciate that fact when I was on my mission. With enough missionaries quitting early, all the teens are going to be aware that this is possible, and that life goes on if you do quit. This is a huge deal.
Forum: Recovery Board

Things more radioactive than tea: Bananas, since they are high in potassium, and radioactive potassium is a product of the natural decay of uranium. Utah, because of the altitude, less atmospheric shielding for UV and higher energy cosmic rays. Wintertime air along the Wasatch Front, which is not all that radioactive, but it contains carcinogenic chemicals. Salt Lake Valley east bench,
Forum: Recovery Board

n/t
Forum: Recovery Board

It would have to be kids turning 9 or more to count as converts. However, that is precisely what some of the "converts" are. Most of the rest are hormonal converts or people in transition (divorce, health issues, recently moved, lost job, etc).
Forum: Recovery Board

The purpose of the WoW is not health. It is obedience training. The goal is to get you to follow orders without any question or second thoughts. In that context, orders that don't make sense is a feature, not a bug.
Forum: Recovery Board

Your subject line speculates about whether there will be any more essays released. By the end of the post you sounded like cessation was an established fact. It is not. How many essays were planned? Which subjects were released? Which subjects have not been released yet? When were they projected to be released, and how late are they? I thought they were to be released by April conference,
Forum: Recovery Board

Next step is the paperwork gets sent to the bishop. Whether you do or don't meet with bishop, or whether the bishop even fills out the paperwork and returns it has no effect on the final result, which is the final letter indicating they have completed processing your resignation. Too bad they don't send you a T-shirt.
Forum: Recovery Board

For those of you in the SL area, RadioWest Through the Lens series will be showing a documentary film on the debunking work of James Randi. Where: Rose Wagner Theater, 138 W Broadway, SLC When: Wednesday, May 7, 7:00 pm, doors open at 6:30 (will likely be full by showtime) Free Trailer, link to RadioWest broadcast about film, and other details: http://radiowest.kuer.org/post/through-lens
Forum: Recovery Board

This is making no sense. How are you going to get an endorsement without attending LDS meetings and paying tithing? Why are you trying to graduate from BYU? How many years since you attended there? There is typically a limit on transferring in upper division credit to complete a degree. This whole plan sounds educationally and ethically dicey.
Forum: Recovery Board

When I graduated from the Zoo in the mid 70s, I received a questionnaire about my educational experience at BYU. It was rather long and detailed. One of the questions was whether there as anything about my educational experience that caused me to question my testimony. I was sorely tempted to answer, yes, I was taught to think, but I chickened out. My shelf had not yet completely collapsed
Forum: Recovery Board

Mediums and seances have been around for all of human history. They were quite popular in the late 1800s in the US. In endeavors that have a basis in reality, humans tend to make progress, that is, get better at the field over time. Mediums, OTOH, seem to have peaked about 130 years ago, about the same time scientists were discovering that electrical signals could be sent through air or even emp
Forum: Recovery Board

Once I figured out that the BoM and BoA were clearly fiction, there was no fixing that hole in the wall. There was never the tiniest temptation to return. Sure, returning would have made my life easier. I value integrity over social acceptance. I really had no other choice that I could live with.
Forum: Recovery Board

Most of the mountains in America were formed the night Christ died for the sins of the world. That same night he destroyed most of the cities in the Americas. Kind of cranky for a savior of the universe.
Forum: Recovery Board

Tarot cards are the gold standard of humans' ability to see patterns where none exist.
Forum: Recovery Board

First time in California. They were convicted of not registering as lobbyists in Virginia during the anti-ERA fight back in the 1970s.
Forum: Recovery Board

Lol! Name one specific case where this has happened. This little diatribe is as bad as those people who claim atheists are time bombs of rape murder and plunder because they don't believe in divine retribution.
Forum: Recovery Board

I hear that the Utah Mo vide is decreasing in Lehi ( northern Utah County) and it is pretty weak in Holladay (central-east SL County). I think new subdivisions in Utah get filled with families with young kids. As the kids grow up and move away, either aging parents or nonMo move-ins become the dominant residents. In either case, local wards lose their vitality. Single family home subdivis
Forum: Recovery Board

Proof by magazine opinion article. That's an interesting concept. Now if the author actually went to court and had the program declared a violation of the First Amendment, I'd be more impressed. No, judges are not afraid of LDS Inc, especially federal judges. See Prop 8 and Amendment 3 cases. This is opinion posing as fact. Perhaps that opinion could carry the day in a court case, but tha
Forum: Recovery Board

I see the jackals were out in force tonight. Not condoning what the mishie did, but she was a dumb kid being a dumb kid. The level of self-righteous vitriol seems a little over the top.
Forum: Recovery Board

Grant Palmer served as an LDS prison chaplain, iirc. Once he concluded LDS Inc was bogus, he thought it more honest and useful work, than spending his time trying to brainwash LDS teens. I've been out of the loop for many years, but I thought the only crime that required excommunication was a murder conviction. There are a lot of LDS prisoners in Utah. Robert Kirby has joked a number of times
Forum: Recovery Board

You get to keep 10% of your income and have a good excuse to miss that dreadful sealing ceremony. Sounds like a win-win. If your temple-attending relatives have any sense of empathy, they may well feel more uncomfortable than you do. They have to know church policy is divisive and unnecessary.
Forum: Recovery Board