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6 weeks ago
messygoop
The stake had an assigned doctor to perform missionary physicals. I didn't know and my mom had set one up through her HMO (Kaiser Permanente). Back then it was a major royal PITA to set up an appointment because they had some 7 or 8 phone lines for some 15K patients. You would wait on the phone for an hour or more just to be transferred to a person to access their early computerized patient manag
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
I hope he gets well.
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
bradley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "I don't think the Church is in dire straights" > > Money for nothing and your chicks for free. Rumored to be included in the new hymnal.
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
I like how you made it work.
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
As a missionary 30 years ago, we played outdoor volleyball on p-days at a place named KoKomo Joes. We rented the court by the hour and it was inevitable that some of the elders wore skins (sans t-shirt) while playing in the sun. Some of the elders wore BYU t-shirts as well. Someone ratted us missionaries out. And KoKomo became off limits. It was announced over the pulpit that it was improper f
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
That's terrible. I can't believe that they not only took the custom license plate holder but actually attached it to their vehicle.
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
I feel angry when I read how people behave. And these kids were probably the same ones passing/administrating sacrament, giving talks about love and charity and going around with the bishop. People give evil a pass, especially if it's done by members. The other night I recalled how Brother Slugger used to punch me near the shoulder before priesthood meeting began. I couldn't take it any mor
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6 weeks ago
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tumwater Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't understand the question, > > "We invite all WORTHY priesthood holders who have > been asked to come forward." > > Were the priesthood holders asked before the > blessing to be part of the blessing? I have heard that question before. And yes, the father who is blessing the
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
If anything the church is more excited about their impending cash hoard of 200 billion dollars than celebrating any celebration of church history.
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
I was on the receiving end of ward love bombing. I personally resented it because my family didn't even know who was doing it. We had fruit and eggs thrown at our house. They left tangerines in a stocking. No, not the red Xmas one, an actual woman's nylon stocking left in our flower planter near the front door. A plate of brownies were left unseen on the welcome mat and our dog ate them. https
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6 weeks ago
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HMer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Are you sure it was the same people delivering > them as pelting your home? They openly bragged about tossing fruit at the front door. It was so much fun- that's what they laughed about in front of me in deacon's quorum. I didn't understand it at all. Not one bit. And 5 decades later, I still feel befuddled as to
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
I was told at age 9 during Primary class time that my family was doomed. It was ward knowledge at the time that my older siblings had stopped attending church. The primary teacher told me that my family would not be together forever. That was very troubling for me. I would tear up when being forced to sing Together Forever (that was the newest primary song 40 years ago). And I heard that would
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
I always find garbage which has been tucked into my wallet. Here's an actual church related business card from my youth. It was most likely shoved in my face during one of my endless personal worthiness interviews. I am going to surmise that this was from 1986 or 1987. The card reads, "I counsel you...to make reading the Book of Mormon a few minutes every day a life-long practice. I feel
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
Your story gives hope for those who long to reconcile with siblings who did not approve of our decisions to leave the church. I am glad that you have some progress with your sibling. My story is sort of the opposite. I have siblings who had the choice to leave (my convert parents never ostracized them or cut them of the family). I, however, had to stay in and make up for their loss and disappo
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
GNPE Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ¿ why hasn’t anyone mentioned the fiberglass > steeples ¿ > > (Bell towers without a Bell) We used to sneak out and climb up on the wall (which had been constructed to keep us monkeys from climbing up the steeple).
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
It was a sister in the ward who had actively recruited my mom and every other sister in the ward. I went with her to the meeting because my dad wanted nothing to do with it. I saw the presentation MLM and the emphasis on setting goals on selling and bringing in new people. I think my mom got cornered into buying several grosses of their brand of laundry detergent. It was sworn to be the same q
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
I have been a prospector of the Dollar Wise Market Service. Well worth my 199.99 fee for 10 years. I make 300 dollars working two spare nights a month. https://youtu.be/faZadaGV6AE?t=423
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
Many parents (even active members) are more supportive of their children. And if their kid is listening to contemporary Christian music, that's ok. It wasn't ok 4o years ago. My mom enrolled me in a local bible church summer program. It ran from 8am to 2pm. At 2pm I walked with a friend to his house (where his mom was a child care provider) until my mom finished work. I never told the bishop o
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7 weeks ago
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Brother Of Jerry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You weren't allowed to take photos? Really? Boy > did your mission have a telephone pole up their > collective butts. > > I bet the mission prez had the film door fixed and > had himself a nice camera. Not when you are ordered to be teaching discussions 7 days a week. This MP employe
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
I think the church still believes that if serving a mission is perceived as a positive then the young people will stay active. As for the church growing from having missionaries chatting online, I think there are very few converts. I agree that young people's time would be better served by pursuing work, education or even self-discovery. However, I am glad that some of the endless browbeating, ne
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
Flatulencer event only Chili dogs will be served before the epic booming begins.
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
But I walked through an open temple tour last year. I did things in reverse. After walking onto the temple ground, the sister missionaries tried to coerce me to return to the stake building (where a temple video would be shown as well as don't use your cell phone or try to take pictures inside the temple). They did not confiscate my phone, but I did put it on silent before placing it back in m
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
I'm sure that some ex-Mos on the other site are bent out of shape over missionaries waving their arms to a "fire up" the missionary spirit devotional (maybe they are called pep rallies now?). I'm going to date myself. Rapper Vanilla Ice was having hits and Will Smith was rapping on Fresh Prince of Bel Air (tv show). And what were we required to do in the MTC class? We had to make
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
I feel inspired that I need to be sent to Tonopah Nevada because we need to find 3 members to be called as a branch presidency so Nelson can build his temple there.
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
“Social media can make everything look really pretty..." I think people who feel compelled to broadcast every aspect of their life will eventually suffer a burnout.
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
There was a time when the 3 hour block had a 10 minute spot between Sacrament meeting and Sunday School to practice a new hymn from the then new hymnal. There was some kind of directive that ward chorister and ward organist/pianist were supposed to collaborate and plan to introduce new songs so wards would feel comfortable singing newer songs. Of course this meant that Sunday School lessons l
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
Would have been cheaper to just take over the spot recently vacated by Church's chicken at a nearby Exxon/Church's chicken location up the road. The church is cheap even though $$$ is no object. They don't want to pay a higher price for a lot zoned for commercial business. The church used to be hell bent on purchasing lots (especially hillsides) that were visible to passing motorists, airplane
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
And aren't you glad that you don't have to? My not so favorite memory was my dad sitting in front of the tv screaming at football player who had dropped a pass or fumbled the football. And my mom playing her Mormon Tabernacle Choir on a tape recorder while ironing in the kitchen. And then one of my siblings who had already stopped attending, couldn't take football noise or Mormon singing so Ma
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
by naming it Provo Septic Tank Canyon Temple
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
Was to be at home doing something else; completely oblivious to what is being said. My mom quickly realized that the tv was on but no one was watching GC. She made a fuss and my dad came to the living room. I was the bad boy and was outside. My dad had a fit that I was outside and I was promptly reminded that it was my idea to get cable tv so we could watch GC at home. The TV volume war- My da
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