They want checks made out to Caldwell Communications instead of Wingnet. I will put that on the front page
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I spent 3 weeks in Germany this summer and one of the trips just outside of Munich is the Dachau prison camp. In the 1960s Germany razed most of the camp structures, then later realized some of it should be saved as a reminder of its history and to teach future generations of what occurred and what can occur. It was a somber visit. Saving Jonestown seems similar to me. Keep it as a memorial a
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I do not know the location of the proposed Knoxville TN temple. The Smoky Mtn National Park is the most visited park in the US. Most likely it will be visible to visitors going to the Park, Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge (Dollywood) for the publicity.
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I believe most folks of European ancestry have 2% of the their DNA from Neanderthals. DW, when she received her DNA results, found she is 4% Neanderthal. I like to tease her about it.
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Those of us who attended the Mormon temple went through the vail upon the five points of fellowship. I believe it was removed in 1991, but I am unsure of the date. Women in particular severely disliked the close intimate contact with an unknown male. Surveys about the temple resulted in the removal of the 5 points of fellowship. The quote below comes from the book 'Mormon Parallels' © 2014
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I joined the cult between my junior and senior year in college. I was 20. At Michigan Tech the dean of the school, the head of the history department and the head of the chemistry department were all Mormons. In fact, they were the only Mormons at the University and all had top positions. That was rather heady to me and proof Mormonism was true. I was invited to their homes for dinners and t
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The shear boredom is driving people out. Who wants to read or listen to a GC talk when it was vacuous already in print? The speaker at the pulpit is bored. It is mind numbing. The boredom was a contributing factor in my leaving One poster wrote that she was an adult member for 30 years living the same year over and over. It was soul crushing to her.
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I think everyone is quite aware of this scandal of Jerry Jr, his wife and a pool boy. A 3-way that lasted for nearly 7 years until they were caught. https://www.salon.com/2022/11/02/the-6-most-shocking-jerry-falwell-jr-scandal-moments-from-hulus-god-forbid-documentary/ Living here in the Bible belt, this has been a common activity it seems in the mega-churches. Ex-Mormons claiming to be
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When I think of these guys running the corporation, deceiving the members and placing donations into essentially secret funds that do not benefit the members that donated those funds, they know what they are doing is religious fraud. There is no other way of viewing it in my opinion. These Mormon leaders are no different than the Watchtower governing body, Scientology quacks and countless other
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Wow thanks! I will leave this up through the weekend. We should be good for a long time now. I hope to renew the site during the winter. I play in 4 groups (sax and clarinet) and fill in with other bands a few times per month in addition to my regulars. It is time for me to slow down. I will be 73 in a few weeks and getting a bit tired. Will stay with the university groups and help stu
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Just one more bump (or two at most) to see if we can get to $1100. Yes, I paid quite a bit myself. Fortunately we are comfortable in retirement though I do not wish to pay that much again. Not paying tithing for 25 years made all the difference in our financial situation. I am always delighted when I see folks take control of their lives and leave the cult.
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Thanks to those who have contributed. Will keep this up for a few more days.
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I was riding my bike on the trails near my home when I saw a former work colleague on a trail. We starting talking about a mutual friend who is struggling. I told Bob that I recently took a load of groceries to this friend who was too sick to get out. Now this is where the conversation gets a bit skewed. Bob said he told the mutual friend that he should go to church. Bob was upset that
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I just talked to our ISP. Our cost is now reduced by more than half. If we can get $1.1 k in contributions, it will cover our outstanding invoice and hopefully all of 2025. Anything above $1.1k will allow me to recover some of the $800 I paid. It is a legacy system that is more expensive to run. We are currently at $667. Thanks Eric
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I know this is a busy time and many are getting hit with political donations, non-profits etc. If we can at least get us to early 2025 in donations I will relax over keeping the site online. Eric
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I wished this was not necessary, but there is a cost to running this site on a dedicated server with backups. I am trying to get the costs reduced. I just paid $800 out of my own pocket to get us close to up to date on the cost. I do not want to do that again. If you can, would you go to the bottom of the main page and donate via Paypal or use the link above. You can also send a check to: Win
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'Then GC talk went to Apostle Quentin L. Cook in turn. What transpired shocked me because it's unexpected. He broached a taboo topic -- the exact factor why Mormon Church has lost an enormous number of members and even potential converts (stagnation since late 90's at least) is because of the Internet.' It has certainly taken them a long time to admit the obvious. I believe Evangelical Christ
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He seems to have little damage. No water and power is intermittent. He had been in combat in Afghanistan so he handles situations like this amazingly well.
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My son lives in St Petersburg. We are texting very 15 min or so. He is OK. His home was built to hurricane standards and at 16 ft elevation. Anxious for this storm to be over. Many will be suffering.
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I would not trust a cult teaching emotional resilience. It seems to be a means of encouraging members to be subservient to the leaders. Trust them and be strong.
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Apparently there is even on book on this subject - BofM in Africa. Some idiot wanted to mail me proof of this occurring a few years ago and put it on the site. The absurdities never end with this organization.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS58S-xPdzI This is a short video (3.5 min) of me discussing leaving Mormonism and creating this site. The video is nearly 20 years old.
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Perhaps one more reply. When I founded the site, I planned on it be online for just a year as a pay it forward to those who helped me out of the cult. I did not anticipate the activity it experienced for the next 8 to 10 years. We were the first to be a non-religious site to help Mormons out of the corporation. Other sites wanted to convert Mormons to the 'real Jesus'. We have people financ
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This board is quieter than the past. It would be helpful to have it mobile friendly. I founded this site and busy with life. I am grateful others monitor the board and help folks. This past week for example (though busier than normal for my retired state) Sunday night - Rehearsed for some German Octoberfest gigs with 5 piece group - Bb clarinet and tenor sax Monday night - rehearsed w
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My mother never liked Mormonism. I was a convert while in college. One thing she kept repeating is that the church will not take care of you in your old age. I am happy that we left 30 years ago and put our old habit of paying tithing to retirement funds instead. I have been retired 8.5 years now. Don't give your hard earned money to the corporation. It has already $120 Billion invested tha
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"As Russell M. Nelson turns 100, a look back at one of the words that will define his legacy https://theconversation.com/as-russell-m-nelson-turns-100-a-look-back-at-one-of-the-words-that-will-define-his-legacy-and-the-controversial-terms-200-year-history-207190 The centenarian has been a reactionary reformer: an energetic leader who streamlined bureaucracy and ended the church’s cen
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https://churchleaders.com/news/457564-prosperity-gospel-financially-u-s-churchgoers.html?ai&fbclid=IwY2xjawE9d91leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHWtSBiScJiqjt5Ysp83rOtTAOTfa_8V5zkEXjZNgZcWv5r1rdmFjXW626g_aem__dVgCI3coibZGtdFF6kRIA During the past five years, belief in the prosperity gospel has climbed among Protestant church attendees in the United States. That’s according to a new survey released this
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I think about this on occasion as the gym I go to plays Christian music all the time. It is the same loop of about 30 songs - all of which are awful. They consist of simple bland chord changes with trite and contrived verses. I have to wear headphones and listen to podcasts while exercising. When I don't have my headphones on, I imagine this what heaven must be like to hard core evangelicals.
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Yes, going back to Missouri was a huge and regularly discussed topic. 3 Nephites helping folks. A large hole in the North where the lost tribes would emerge. Kind of like our Cicada invasion this year I suppose. Archaeologists keeping a Book of Mormon with them to use as a reference for their work in South America. Year supply of food. Many Mormons got involved in mutli-level market
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