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Posted by: newcomer ( )
Date: August 26, 2013 11:38PM

A TBM is one of only 14 million followers on a planet with 6 Billion people.

They just so happened to be born into the only true religion.

How lucky are they? That's like beating the religious lottery.

All the other unlucky souls (most which will probably never hear of the cult), some 5-billion, nine-hundred, and eighty-six million people, are going to hell just because their parents weren't Mormon!

(Back to reality: Muslims, Christians, and Buddhists are just as steadfast in their beliefs. Someone's going to pissed in the afterlife.)

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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: August 27, 2013 12:04AM

newcomer Wrote:
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> A TBM is one of only 14 million followers on a
> planet with 6 Billion people.
>
> They just so happened to be born into the only
> true religion.
>
> How lucky are they? That's like beating the
> religious lottery.
>
> All the other unlucky souls (most which will
> probably never hear of the cult), some 5-billion,
> nine-hundred, and eighty-six million people, are
> going to hell just because their parents weren't
> Mormon!
>
> (Back to reality: Muslims, Christians, and
> Buddhists are just as steadfast in their beliefs.
> Someone's going to pissed in the afterlife.)

I don't have much use for talk about an "afterlife,"
etc., but I suppose that it's better to be born a
Mormon (or converted to Mormonism) than it is to be a
starving, hopeless member of some other oppressed group.

That's like my saying ten percent is better than
nine percent of something, I guess.

UD

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Posted by: fluhist ( )
Date: August 27, 2013 12:11AM

I know. This is one thing that really bothered me when I was in tscc. Why was God so PICKY? Why were there so FEW people allowed the whole truth?

Oh well, it is all academic now, and one of the things I like to think about is that I am NOT so special, and NOT so much is expected of me!! What a releif, I am as human as anyone else!!

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Posted by: Bobihor ( )
Date: August 27, 2013 12:15AM

I believe the world is up to 7 billion now. Even MORE amazing. ;)

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Posted by: Carrots Tomatoes and Radishes ( )
Date: August 27, 2013 01:18AM

7,174,884,300 and still counting, to be exact :)

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Posted by: Albinolamanite ( )
Date: August 27, 2013 12:16AM

So true, billions of people will never even hear of the cult. And will never get the chance to even be dead dunked. The fact that this doesn't set off alarm bells in the heads of TBM's is so telling. Plus, the whole my-spiritual-feelings-are greater-than-your-spiritual-feelings argument should cause at least a little confusion.

It makes me laugh that mormons can't understand why they're accused of being a--holes with a fake superiority complex when they explicitly belittle and demean the beliefs of everyone else as inferior to their own.

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Posted by: armtothetriangle ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 08:16PM

I don't remember where I heard this, from a comedian, maybe Eddie Izzard? It went something like-

The Mormons get to go to the Celestial Kingdom and if I never hear of Joseph Smith I get to go to the Terrestrial Kingdom. But if I hear about their prophet and reject him, I end up in the Telestial Kingdom. So aren't they doing me a favor if the missionaries never knock on my door?

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Posted by: pathfinder ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 08:24PM

lol. I like that. Never thought of it that way. Guess I'm doomed..

+1

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Posted by: msp ( )
Date: August 27, 2013 12:27AM

And how selfish we all are for leaving.
Seriously, tbms don't give this issue a second though. "It will all be solved after this life" doesn't really cut it here, considering all the specific doctrine on how these proxy-ordinances are to be done.

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Posted by: David Jason ( )
Date: August 27, 2013 10:19AM

Everyone will convert when the Savior returns, and then all 10 billion by then will be doing proxy work. 2000 years will be good enough to get everyone dead dunked.

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Posted by: newcomer ( )
Date: August 27, 2013 10:27AM

And if you think about it: Saudi Arabia outlawed proselytizing in the country. So everyone there is going to hell because of the country's laws?

Doesn't sound fair.

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Posted by: Carrots Tomatoes and Radishes ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 04:39PM

Well they never made it to all the corners of the earth yet. Hmmm...too bad.

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Posted by: dk ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 04:58PM

an after thought?

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Posted by: anon1234 ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 05:07PM

A women has releases 300-400 eggs of tens of thousands of ovems,
these are released one at a time.
A man releases millions of sperm.
One sperm meets one egg.
This implants at some chance less than 100%

Be glad you're here at all.

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Posted by: amos2 ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 08:19PM

Some estimate the all-time human # at 100 billion who ever lived.

So take the odds of being Mormon (the only true "dispensation" that ever broke the 1,000,000 barrier, as implied by "scripture"), a mere (let's say 10,000,000, which is still generous) 10,000,000 Mormons have endured. That's 1 in every 10,000 of earth's all-time inhabitants.

But that's many times more probable than being a Jew on the only world wicked enough to crucify its god...as the fable goes. If there are "worlds without number" out there in space, inhabited by "begotten sons and daughters" of god, none of which would crucify Jezuz except THIS one...and "none other nation [but the Jews] would crucify their god" here on earth, then you have got to be an arch-villain to be a Jew, the only people on the only planet wicked enough to crucify gawd.

Gawd.

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Posted by: rhgc ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 09:10PM

A very thoughtful film on the afterlife was one with Robin Williams in the lead role. It give the options and, essentially, we all get the one we expect.

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Posted by: grubbygert nli ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 09:15PM

what dreams may come?

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 09:36PM

newcomer Wrote:
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> That's like beating the
> religious lottery.

Or beating the unlucky odds of getting hit by lightning.

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Posted by: rationalist01 ( )
Date: August 28, 2013 09:40PM

I'm not lucky to have been born a Mormon, I'm lucky to have been born in a time and place when it's legal to leave whatever stupid theology you happen to have been born into.

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