http://www.charitableplanning.com/document/1290599

It involves the IRS BYU & Dallin Oaks and well worth reading

Something about tax deductions of BYU doners

What's a "doner"?

One who dons.

a Dyslexic boner.

hahaha...mind your p's and q's

..."The summons here involved is a John Doe summons whereby the IRS seeks to learn from BYU officials the names of those who made charitable contributions in kind to BYU, not including securities, for the tax years 1976, 1977, and 1978....."

ah..this is going to be interesting.

It is common with universities to receive "charitable contributions in kind..."

I wonder what they are specifically after, maybe I missed it in the reading of the case...

What would these contributions in kind in those years be, exactly?

I found some of the problem here.

".....BYU points out that of the 162 returns which overvalued the deduction for a charitable contribution to BYU, the great majority involved donations of art objects and silver mining claims. In this regard, BYU offered to disclose to the IRS the names of all of its donors of art objects and silver mining claims....."

ahh..but the plot thickens...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2013 04:14PM by SusieQ#1.

Calling a lawyer to help us understand this case!
I'm just stabbing in the dark!

SusieQ#1 Wrote:
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> Calling a lawyer to help us understand this case!
> I'm just stabbing in the dark!


I scrolled right past the date.... never mind! duh!

This case was from 1982. I'm quite sure it has been resolved.

The document was from 1982. Presumably the IRS investigations are over by now. More interesting is what was the outcome of the investigation. Anyone know? The fact that 30 years ago the IRS investigator the value of certain donations just doesn't seem all that interesting.

I'm with you on this. It doesn't surprise me a bit that people would donate stuff to BYU and than inflate the charitable deduction value on their taxes.

Even donations to Deseret Industries are commonly subject to inflation of valuation.. They just hand you a blank form that you fill out yourself with the estimate of value for the crap you left there. An open invitation to pretend that old desk lamp was a Tiffany.

Still haven't figured out how to host any relevant documents to share, eh?
We're really supposed to take 30 year old cases as somehow relevant to what now? Something else with absolutely zero substantiation?

I bet there's a how-to online somewhere about how to host documents and share links, but if you aren't even that competent, how are we supposed to believe you were ever able to expose anything about the church?
They are much savvier than someone who can't even share a .pdf.

WinksWinks Wrote:
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> Still haven't figured out how to host any relevant
> documents to share, eh?
> We're really supposed to take 30 year old cases as
> somehow relevant to what now? Something else with
> absolutely zero substantiation?
>
> I bet there's a how-to online somewhere about how
> to host documents and share links, but if you
> aren't even that competent, how are we supposed to
> believe you were ever able to expose anything
> about the church?
> They are much savvier than someone who can't even
> share a .pdf.

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WinksWinks

I'm not trying to make trouble or decieve anyone and just pointing out facts that the Mormon Church and its "Danite" agents have a criminal purpose and that's to steal money to fund the Church's agenda. I'll try and figure out how to link the documents

Basically in the late 70s early 80s the IRS caught several people that donated non-cash (art, silver mining claims, etc) to BYU and way over-inflated the fair market value (18 million vice the IRS allowed 2 million) of the donations.

The IRS obtained a John Doe warrant (basically a fishing expedition) to get a list of names/donations made to BYU (In kind donations, not cash) and BYU fought it fairly successfully until it hit the 10th circuit.

While I have no love for tscc, BYU, or Dallin Oakes, I understand BYU fighting this. As someone who prepares 990s for several 501c3 entities I actually understand the BYU's position. Just blindly turning over lists of donors and associated donations tends to spook existing and potential donors and can be quite devastating on organizations that rely on donations for their continued existence.

This was a tax scam the brothren were pulling on the Government the mining claims were worthless but how do you prove that.

Once that ruling came down from the 10th Curcuit the Church pulled Dallin Oaks out of there and put him on the Utah Supreme Court

There's no dough that these are the same mining claims used to defraud Howard Hughes by the Mormon Maifa that attended him

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1734&dat=19740114&id=w5AbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=4lEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5846,1195902

I'm not making this stuff up the Church is a Criminal Enterprise

I've also got some very interesting evidence that shows tscc was involved in the assassination of JFK and 9/11. As soon as I figure out what a pdf is, I will link to it.