I just dont get it. Why are the leaders so concerned about this matter? What is the danger in it? Why not to live and let love?. To me it is just like some people who feel different than me want to life different than me. Their desire is trigered by love. It is not like they want to go around hurting each other or themselves. Why not just leave them alone!?. I am really tire of the self righteous proclamation. What is that makes them think they can police people's feelings and choices?.

Religions wouldn't survive if they left people alone and didn't police feelings and choices.

The best way to maintain unity is to create an external threat for people to rally against. The key is to constantly create external threats so that people don't look to internal problems with the religion. Keep people on the rat wheel of looking outward.

Mormonism is also an apocalyptic religion. They believe themselves to be ushering in the 2nd coming of Christ. Gay marriage is just another "proof" that Jesus is coming back soon. Once the gay marriage issue simmers down, they will find some other issue to rally around.

Mormonism has several pokers in the fire right now. The other evil they are rallying against is porn.



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All that, and because they're a bunch of old men totally creeped out by the idea of homosexuality, and because they're so insecure regarding their own sexual stature.

Nobody else needs to post. This NAILS it.

Gracewarrior, I've never seen it stated so dead on. It's that tribal mentality at its best...or worst.

They have to have a focus for their bigotry.

and, I think, they figure they'll get more money by sticking as many people as possible in traditional marriages, making as many children as possible. Bet they've done a study.

Why were they so concerned about the civil rights movement? Why were they up so concerned about the equal rights amendment?

Because it's all Simon Says, one size fits all. It's like feeding all of the animals at the zoo the same diet.

Plus, thinking you have "the one true gospel" closes your mind.

I supposed it's nice that they get concerned about SOMEthing, because mostly, Mormonism is a boring tradition of vain jumping through hoops. The challenges come in things like scraping up tithing when your car really needs repair. But when they get concerned about a cause, it is never a helpful one. It is invariable made to tear down something that a lot of people want, whether it's SSM or ERA or something.

The Mormon church, at it's most fundamental level, is no different than any other church anywhere. They are all, at the heart, little more than tithe-farmers. Sperm is reduced to the seed one must cast to produce another generation of tithe payers.

If the Mormon church begins at some point in the future to make declarations of acceptance of gay/lesbian social it will be only lip service driven by political expediency rather than honest leadership discourse. The Mormon church is not willing that even one potential male OR female tithe paying member be lost to same sex lifestyle. It is not difficult to understand why gay couples traditionally have fewer children than their heterosexual counterparts. The fact that the quality of attention, potential for better education, and other metrics are usually the same and oftentimes better in homes headed by same sex couples are not the issues that most concern Mormon leadership. Their concern is that for every ten persons choosing an openly gay lifestyle as compared to the ideal Mormon family setup you can count on a minimum loss of fifty or more second generation tithers. I'm quite sure there are far more than ten Mormons secretly yearning for an honest and open life style that does not include a minivan filled with six or seven quarreling, snot-nosed brats. The numbers could compound with astonishing speed.

No, the Mormon Corporation is a well oiled machine that is perpetually casting precious sperm for future generations of mindless tax-free income producing tithe payers. The innermost circle of Mormon hierarchy are little more than the ants in the animal kingdom who milk hard working aphids, giving only limited "protection" from predators in exchange for all the captive population can provide. This usually amounts to an almost free ride for the ants and extinction for the slave aphid population when the source of food gives way to hard times, like winter. Meanwhile, the ants ride it out in the comfort and safety of their underground burrows. This is a sweet deal, if you're not an aphid.

Beyond petty prejudice they care nothing about what any of us really do in the privacy of our quiet hours. It's all about the bucks, Baby.

Please don't get me wrong. I loved every minute of my little nose pickers childhoods. I'm just willing to concede that my life choices may not suit the person standing next to me at church, or anywhere else for that matter.

TSCC is nothing more then a fear machine. And that goes for all the other religions as well.

FEAR......SELLS!!!!!

Here's my opinion...as uninformed as it is..

TSCC is a male-dominated patriarchal church. The men spend ALOT of time/each other...starting out as young boys in the church, through their mission and on and up the mormon food-chain...

-IF- their is ANY perception that men being men can cohabitate with each other (the women too), their afraid that the men will gravitate towards each other because that is truly all they know for REAL friendship and companionship.

How many here thought they were gay or realized they were as TBM mormons??

I work with a few repressed gay mormons at work and see them out and about..

The whole Families are forever thing could fall apart for them and TSCC is afraid..



like I said, just my opinion...

I believe it is because SSM runs counter to their doctrines and overall eternal image they peddle. Multiple gods with multiple wives populating multiple worlds. Man and his rib wife being the start up couple that populated the world. The whole temple shpeel.

Can you even imagine all the things that the church would have to change if they were to magically acquiesce and a "revelation" allowed for SSM type sealings?

They will be holding on to their iron rod of bigotry until boycotts and other influences threaten their money flow to the point of adaption.

Stay here long enough, read enough posts and a pattern emerges. A huge number of people stay in TSCC even though they do not believe out of fear of losing their families. Many others get horrible even abusive responses when they tell their TBM families they no longer believe.

TSCC is frightened that changing their primary method of control will open the door for all sorts of changes in the family that would cause a loss of control.

I think you got it exactly right! It is easy and innocuous enough to keep stating how important and precious family units are. It is easy for people to agree with. But considering what TSCC does to families when a member tries to fall away shows their true colors - the push for [traditional] families is a control tool [for TSCC] more than anything else.

Gay people are often wildly different from run-of-the-mill mormons. Gay people are often wildly different from other gay people. All that diversity makes mormon heads explode. Which is messy. And there are no janitors to clean it up.


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