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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: June 02, 2011 02:04AM

Judge for yourself... I just clicked on this link to "The Utah War" to clear up some stuff in a friendly--and investigative--discussion with another RFM regular. I've proposed the archaic term "Mormonites" be used to characterize these dishonest revisionist history dissemblers who infest the Internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_War

There is barely a short paragraph on the Mountain Meadows Massacre (which, until the Oklahoma City Bombing, was the largest single mass killing of white men by other whites in this country's history).

>Despite this, the confrontation was not bloodless. At the height of the tensions, on September 11, 1857, more than 120 California-bound settlers from Arkansas, Missouri and other states, including unarmed men, women and children, were killed in remote southwestern Utah by a group of local Mormon militiamen. They first claimed that the migrants were killed by Native Americans. This event was later called the Mountain Meadows massacre and the motives behind the incident remain a mystery.

An incident? Really? The event occupied national headlines for 20 years and provoked congressional outrage, and its ramifications are still felt today. Too, none of the members of the murdered Fancher/Baker party were from Missouri...

More...

>In the end, negotiations between the United States and the Latter-day Saints resulted in a full pardon for the Mormons, the transfer of Utah's governorship from church President Brigham Young to non-Mormon Alfred Cumming, and the peaceful entrance of the US Army into Utah.

That "full pardon" is nonsense (else John D. Lee would not have been executed), and I can't find any mention of Federal Indian Agent Garland Hurt, who barely escaped with his life after learning the truth about MMM within weeks afterwards...

In truth, much of the entire Wiki entry is nothing but ill-disguised revisionist propaganda that magnifies the persecution the Saints faced and ignores or minimizes their own excesses... Mormons are even disingenuously likened to "abolitionists," when in fact a number owned slaves...



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/02/2011 02:15AM by SL Cabbie.

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Posted by: roflmao ( )
Date: June 02, 2011 07:06AM

Seminary in the 1970s Brother Law said it "was an indian attack they tried to blame on the mormons". Kolobians are still trying to hide the truth about it.

Great post cabbie

Topping

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Posted by: trappedinside ( )
Date: June 02, 2011 08:16AM

There are Higbees in the ward my wife belongs to that are related to the ones from the MMM, complete with diaries of their ancestors. Surprisingly, the bishop of said ward did not try to play the native American card, but he did pull the "no one understand the persecution the "saints" went through" trump...

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Posted by: Raptor Jesus ( )
Date: June 02, 2011 11:50AM

to see if there is a fight going on between editors of the entry. Most of the Mormon wikipedia entries have knock out fights between real historians and the apologists when you check the discussions about the entries.

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Posted by: Puli ( )
Date: June 02, 2011 11:52AM

What I recall reading many years ago in "The Writings of John D Lee" was that all 9 of those indicted for the MMM were eventually caught by federal law enforcement. Young instructed them to make plea deals - not pardons - and Lee was the only one who refused insisting he was innocent. Lee claimed he was only following orders given through the LDS militia chain of command of the Nauvoo Legion. Had Lee acquiesced as instructed, he would likely have been given a relatively light sentence as the other 8 were and he likely would have become an obscured historical figure as the other 8 men became.

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Date: June 02, 2011 06:41PM


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