One more blatant example of how much the church crosses personal boundaries, and how ill-equipped young mormons going out into the world are to even know when someone is crossing their personal boundaries. Get a load of the "show the ring to the mother-in-law first" stuff. What? If it's not big enough, he's not acceptable or something? I have knot in my stomach after reading this.

Meridian Magazine - Discussing Pornography with Your Future Son-in-Law - Meridian Magazine - LDS, Mo

http://ldsmag.com/church/article/8500?ac=1



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Someone help me here with the mormon's preoccupation with pornography....

Is it because a truly TBM couple's sex life is SOOOOOOO boring that if the husband were to get caught up in pornography, he would really actually enjoy more masturbating with himself than having sex with his wife?????


Porn is fine and all if you're into looking at graphic pictures of men and/or women...BUT it's much more fun to be..."ACTIVELY" involved with your significant other than looking at pictures of naked people.....


just sayin'.....



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That's one of the reasons nomo's find it so creepy.

they can keep people from obsessing about the multitudes of contradictions and falsehoods in their religion.

Oh crap, they're on to us! QUICK! LOOK OVER THERE- someone you love might be looking at underwear ads and plotting to drag you out of the CK...now see, you've forgotten all about that First Vision thing...right?

fear of the Internet.

Make the Internet a scary place. Scare the wymyns into snooping into what Peter is spending all his time on.

the whole point is to keep marments away from pro-truth sites. but if you can couch it as keeping Peter way from porn,

then the Internet remains a truly scary place. Keep that home computer in the front room for FHE.

TSSC will control access to the Internet one way or another.

in logic class, it's called the straw man argument.

What if there ain't no ring? Like if yer on the poor side? Would that be a deal-killer?

My mom got a nice engagement ring... as a 10th anniversary present.

Sometimes I have started a thread and by the time I finish typiing there are several on the same subject.

...the young man had never really been interested in pornography? All those questions might be considered intrusive and offensive to a guy who didn't really think porn was all that great. Most men have looked at Playboy or something similar by the time they are old enough to get married, but that doesn't mean they get up in the night and creep down to the basement and drool over extreme close-up money shots on the internet simply because they are male. Please.

If I were a guy talking to my prospective FIL and the first thing he did was grill me about porn, I'd want to know why he was so obsessed with it in the first place and I'd probably tell him it was none of his damn business in the second.

The line of questioning reminds me of a friend of mine who had a drinking problem, and he joined AA and quit. We were all happy for him until he started coming to parties or gatherings or whatever and if he saw you with a beer, he'd back you into a corner and ask you, sadly, when you were going to do something about your alcoholism. If you said "What alcoholism? I've been here for two hours and this is my second beer!" he would say "If you aren't an alcoholic, why are you counting your drinks?" You couldn't win.

The whole preoccupation with porn here seems to be the same way. If the guy says yeah, I looked at Playboy before, the father gets to grill him on how he "quit" -- even if "quitting" meant "I don't have a subscription and it's expensive to buy single issues, so I don't read it. Jeez."

So let me get this straight, if he denies ever having a problem with porn or appears to be to perfect he's suspect. Of course he's going to appear to be to perfect - he's a mormon duh! Note the last one on the list.

"He admits that he used to look at pornography, but says that he stopped doing it, but fails to explain how he was able to stop.

He claims he overcame the problem on his own without any help from others.

He’s not said anything to his girlfriend/fiancé about his history or current problems with pornography.

He is vague about how he keeps himself from viewing pornography.

He admits he used to have a problem with it, but doesn’t define what exactly that problem was. He appears defensive and doesn’t
want to discuss it.

He insists that he’s never even seen pornography and appears “too perfect” in his responses. Recognize that even though he may not have seen hardcore pornography, we live in a culture saturated with pornographic images. If he acts like he doesn’t notice or isn’t affected by those, you need to be concerned. Every man should acknowledge the occasional pull from images that are designed to draw our attention and entice us."

"...images that are designed to draw our attention and entice us" basically describes advertising. All advertising. Not just porn. What exactly does this guy consider "porn"? I get the feeling he applies that word to anything with cleavage.



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O.K......I understand......As a society we have solved the problems of infidelity, physical abuse, verbal abuse, mental abuse, poor money managment, marrying to quickly, having children before we are ready, and marrying when we are to young "mentally" to handle it. So the next logical marriage killer we need to eradicate is pictures of naked people. Pictures of naked people are making it impossible for couples to stay together. If you get even one glimpse of a photo of a boob, go ahead and call a lawyer, your marriage is doomed! If only we could go back in time and uninvent the camera, there would be no more divorce!

If my FIL had asked me about my experience with porn, my reply would have been "I'm only an amature, but I've got some amazing shots of you daughter,..would you like to check them out?...no, no,..they are tastefully done, no penitration or anything...?



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Is anything private anymore?

Of course, pornography is not the real issue. Male masturbation is the real issue, and pornography is a euphemism. Parents of a young woman are instructed to ask their daughter's fiance if he's a wanker. Try to get that girl married.

Frankly, I think there would be a MAJOR problem if the guy was of a marriageable age and had NEVER seen any porn!

Good grief, he's gonna need a road map on his wedding night!


~VOW

If temple endowed & eternally married MORmONS had their regular conventional mortal genitalia turn totally inert and new totally undetectable sex organs somehow emerged in some alternate location and these new sex organs made possible a special alternate MORmON kind of celestial sex for the MORmON couple that was 100 times more blissful.... and far less messy & clumsy than normal sex, then the MORmON assholes would have every right to be as preachy, snooty and uptight about conventional sex as they are.... BUT THAT ISNT THE WAY THINGS WORK.

THe preachy pretentious pompous ass MORmON jerks, (including David Bednar and his temple bride /live in live porn model legally bound personal slut, go home to get on their freak the exact same way as every other homo sapien, and they look at each other's stuff while they do it.

They think that doesnt count as "porn"! they think what they do is special? because of a stupid secret handshake?

If MORmONS keep acting and preaching like they really dont use and really dont like conventional mortal sexual appendages, then perhaps they should put up if they cant shut up on the matter and start having some of their highly offensive personal sexual appendages CUT OFF, SEWN UP, and ELIMINATED !

IF YOU ARE GOING TO PREACH IT THAT ADAMANTLY, THEN GO AHEAD AND LIVE THE EXAMPLE!

STUPID ASS MORmONS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWbYTAC02I8

RJ: No, in general it is great.

FIL: Whaaaaaaaaaat????

RJ: I mean, yes, finding GOOD porn is difficult, but there's nothing more satisfying then finding just the right thing you're in the mood for that's not too silly or too fake or too gross.

FIL: Evil!!!!

RJ: Not really, I mean, I'm not into the tentacle demon thing, but if you are. Hey, I won't stop you. But I will judge you in my head, you pervert.

nothing worse that fake plastic boobs

you could drive a nail into the floor with those gunboats.

throw in long blood red fingernails and stilletto heels and I'd rather do the alley cat across the way with the ovarian cyst. At least that might shut her up.

Mormons look at porn the same way they look at alcohol. One drink and you're an alcoholic. They find pictures like this erotic too http://www.amazon.com/Unfinished-Music-1-Two-Virgins/dp/B0000009RE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1313628916&sr=1-1

'Nuff said.

Maybe guys that fit the Mormon "marriageable" category should start applying for the mormonads commercials. I could see it now:
Hi I'm a 21 yr old male, never had sex, never drank, and consider old spice ads porn. Im engaged to an 18 year old, and will be married with three kids by the age of 25.
I'm sure the ads will draw plenty of converts.