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Posted by: 3X ( )
Date: January 28, 2012 11:55AM

I found a reference to "papier de merde" in the French Huff Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2012/01/26/billet-audrey-pulvar-elle-racisme_n_1233230.html


Are any of our French speakers skilled enough to discuss the nuance of the term? I doubt that "toilet paper" (or its more vernacular equivalent) catches the full sense of the expression (as used in the linked article).



I found another example elsewhere on the web:

"T'as fait vraiment un papier de merde, la dernière fois"



Perhaps "piece of crap" is an apt English translation?


3X (ever desireous of expanding his minimalist French lexicon)

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: January 28, 2012 12:10PM

I'm not sure about the whole "paper of sh*t" thing.

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Posted by: toto ( )
Date: January 28, 2012 12:14PM

"You truly made a shitty/crappy paper, the last time"

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: January 28, 2012 04:18PM


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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: January 28, 2012 04:22PM

I love the French. France truly is a great nation, just with different self interests than our own. I think they're looking back on the last 10 years and feeling pretty good about their decisions.

Won't even bother about all the many other speakers of French from many a far-flung place.

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Posted by: Itzpapalotl ( )
Date: January 28, 2012 06:06PM

+1

Never understood the hatred towards France. Americans love their cream gravy, where the f- do you think it started?!? Bechamel, idiots!

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: January 28, 2012 04:45PM

Oh well. I guess I'll just eat my freedom fries and shut up.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: January 29, 2012 07:18AM


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Posted by: 3X ( )
Date: January 29, 2012 12:31PM

Note that neither august statesman speaks Vietnamese ...

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Posted by: The Man in Black ( )
Date: January 28, 2012 06:00PM

Unless this is an idiomatic expression I'm not familiar with I think the best translation is, "sh!tty paper" meaning sh!t"ty article or possibly bullsh!t journalism in reference to the magazine articles.

I may be wrong I didn't bother to consult a dictionary.

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Posted by: chipsnsalsa ( )
Date: January 28, 2012 10:34PM

Agree with the other posters here. Perhaps it's the French version of our "Yellow Journalism?"

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Posted by: informer ( )
Date: January 29, 2012 03:01PM

http://www.franceinter.fr/emission-le-billet-d-audrey-pulvar-y-a-bon-obamania

Par exemple quand il prétend décrire le « phénomène » Black Fashion Power dans un article dont la bêtise et l’inanité ne tarderont pas à servir de modèle du genre « papier de merde », dans les écoles de journalisme.

For example when it [Elle Magazine] claims to describe the "phenomenon" of Black Fashion Power in an article whose stupidity and inanity will soon make it the model for the "shit paper" genre in journalism schools.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: January 30, 2012 07:20AM

This means "a crap article".

They're basically saying that the article is so bad that it will henceforth be used as the standard model of what a bad article is.

Best regards to all

Tom in Paris

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Posted by: 3X ( )
Date: January 30, 2012 09:22AM

--> "a crap article"

That feels like a good apprehension of the nuance.


Now, would "livre de merde" be idiomatic French?


because we can all think of a candidate ...

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: January 30, 2012 09:50AM

An extremely apposite description if the book you're talking about is the one I'm thinking about ;-)

BOM bom bom BOM

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Posted by: Tabula Rasa ( )
Date: January 30, 2012 02:43PM

Mange' ma viandre!!!

And that, my friends, is pretty much all I got. :)

Ron

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