I did not get the chance to comment on the earlier thread so here are some thoughts.

Also, it bothers me when discussions start about men and the church and people instantly jump in announcing that women have it worse as if it is some kind of comparison contest. Not saying this happened in the previous thread, but I see it from time to time. So I want to keep the spotlight on the men's unique issues for a little longer.

1) Women have it worse in the church, but men are without a doubt emasculated and the gender roles and culture are unhealthy.

2) In my opinion, the church has changed with the times to be less male-dominated in the modern age (but still the usual 30 years behind the rest of the U.S. culturally, which is 30 years behind Europe).

3) They still hold the priesthood and all the real positions, but you at least see talks about how unrighteous dominion is not the way of the Lord. At least doctrinally, I believe the church covers its bases and makes being a domineering husband a no-no. But as we all know, it still happens.

4) As a result, we now have women dominating the men, using every persuasive tactic under the sun to coerce them into living all the rules. It is all out of the women's FEAR, and is sick, sick, sick.

5) It means absolutely nothing to have the priesthood, and to "protect" your family and "provide" for them. Protect them from what, bandits?

6) Single-income living is just plain dumb dumb dumb. I bragged that my wife would never work, and it sent us straight to the poorhouse and destroyed my self-image when I lost my job and ran into hard times. What do you expect when you aren't fulfilling your sole function?

7) The church and its cult-like system of subtle control is the true emasculating agent, but peer pressure from other men and again the wife's unrelenting fear and anxiety support and exacerbate it.

First attempt here: http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,410326

treated rotten and probably equally bad, but in different ways.

Trying to beat the porn addiction label IS a big issue. Even not going to the lds church in 16 to 20 years, I still hear too much about this issue.

Actually, I'd prefer to be a woman in mormonism than a man--after all I am a woman. I used to watch what men put up with and I was not envious whatsoever. I never wanted the priesthood--I just thought it was more work. I liked the idea growing up that I would be able to stay at home and my husband would have to work--I changed my mind after working for a while. I love working.

I can't imagine having a wife who was pushing me to get higher and higher callings. It always made me angry when my ex got callings--as I knew it meant less time at home.

Mormonism is an equal opportunity victimizer--if you ask me.

Boring as priesthood meetings were, I'd take them in a heartbeat over being stuck at home in a romper room full of kids with no break EVER. At least you can zone out in meetings.