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Posted by: Xyandro ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 12:55PM

I feel this is mostly on-topic, as mormonism is the direct cause of so, so many gay men being married to women.

From my own personal experience, I can say that being a gay man married to a woman is an incredibly difficult experience. And having children, as wonderful as they are, can make you feel trapped in a very unfulfilling relationship.

I'd like to point out a support group for gay fathers in Utah, married or not: the Utah Gay Fathers Association. It's a place where you can meet other gay dads and talk about life, being gay, being a dad, and anything else.

We have support meetings each month, either in person or on the phone. You can be as anonymous as you'd like. We also have periodic social activities.

For more information, please go to http://utahgayfathers.com/

If you're interested, I can add you to our secret facebook group (totally anonymous, no one can see you've joined or what you post). Feel free to contact me at xyandro@gmail.com with any questions.

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Posted by: MJ ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 02:04PM

Though I am not qualified to be a member, I know lots of good men that are. I gladly recommend UGFA to any gay men that are fathers.

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Posted by: newcomer ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 04:12PM

Xyandro Wrote:
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> I feel this is mostly on-topic, as mormonism is
> the direct cause of so, so many gay men being
> married to women.
>
> From my own personal experience, I can say that
> being a gay man married to a woman is an
> incredibly difficult experience. And having
> children, as wonderful as they are, can make you
> feel trapped in a very unfulfilling relationship.
>
> I'd like to point out a support group for gay
> fathers in Utah, married or not: the Utah Gay
> Fathers Association. It's a place where you can
> meet other gay dads and talk about life, being
> gay, being a dad, and anything else.
>
> We have support meetings each month, either in
> person or on the phone. You can be as anonymous
> as you'd like. We also have periodic social
> activities.
>
> For more information, please go to
> http://utahgayfathers.com/
>
> If you're interested, I can add you to our secret
> facebook group (totally anonymous, no one can see
> you've joined or what you post). Feel free to
> contact me at xyandro@gmail.com with any
> questions.

What if you're a gay dad convinced you're straight so you can fit in?

Kudos to you for having balls and not living a lie and supporting homophobic politicians.

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Posted by: Xyandro ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 04:31PM

We have at least one person who calls into the meetings in that exact situation. He finds himself unable to be open with it but wants to talk. No one even knows his name.

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Posted by: newcomer ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 05:04PM

Xyandro Wrote:
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> We have at least one person who calls into the
> meetings in that exact situation. He finds
> himself unable to be open with it but wants to
> talk. No one even knows his name.


I know a gay mormon dad. And his family is homophobic. If only his family knew lol.

I give him my ear. He knows that this atheist, liberal (exact opposite of him) isn't judging him. And, sadly, his "family" can't know the real him. Only someone at work that doesn't believe in Joseph Smith.

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Posted by: Xyandro ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 05:21PM

If he's interested, have him call into one of the support meetings. He can block his number if he'd like.

It makes a lot of difference to speak to people who have been in the exact same place. (I'm assuming you're not a gay father; I could be mistaken.)

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Posted by: newcomer ( )
Date: September 29, 2012 10:13PM

Xyandro Wrote:
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> If he's interested, have him call into one of the
> support meetings. He can block his number if he'd
> like.
>
> It makes a lot of difference to speak to people
> who have been in the exact same place. (I'm
> assuming you're not a gay father; I could be
> mistaken.)


This guy is a coward in all sense of the word. He's behind the church fully even when I ask him such obvious questions like if he chose his sexuality. He says that choice doesn't matter as long as he doesn't act out on it. "Satin's tempting me." If Satin's a high schooler, I agree then that he's tempting you.

I'll coyly bring this link up. No guarantees. Wife caught him pleasing himself to gay magazines and since then he lets her teach the children to be homophobic because he's too afraid of challenging her since she knows about his preferences. Not exactly a stand up kind of guy. Plus, I've been dropping bombs about the fraud that is mormonism for about 4 years now and he's not budging; he has no intellectual curiosity at all which is perplexing since he hold's several advanced degrees.

PS: I'm 100% straight. Found out he is gay because of the porn he thought he was storing on his thumb drive actually stored on the company's storage (cloud storage). Since then, out of guilt or mental anguish, he can't stop talking about only liking to look at gay porn. Whatever.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/2012 10:22PM by newcomer.

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 04:21PM

someone gay. Keep that in mind. I will actually let my ex know about this group.

My ex lives here with me. I'm gone part of the time to live with my nonmo boyfriend.

What it comes down to--the experience is what you make of it. My ex wouldn't survive without me--and you can take that comment to the bank.

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Posted by: Xyandro ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 04:34PM

You might try the sister organization (http://straightspouses.org/). Email me if you want me to put you in touch with the facebook group.

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 05:34PM

wildflowers for about 9 years now--started by Emily Pearson, Carol Lyn's daughter.

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Posted by: De Ja Vue ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 05:29PM

I thought the clip was very nicely done. I copied the link and sent it on (I always include myself in the sends) When I clicked on the link in the email I recieved (from myself) It was gay porn. I have been calling all I sent it to and apologized. I don't know what happened. :-(

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Posted by: Xyandro ( )
Date: September 28, 2012 05:40PM

WHAT?!?

The link should be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njacCTStczo

What did you get?

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Posted by: Xyandro ( )
Date: September 29, 2012 12:32AM

Topping for the night crowd...

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Posted by: sonoma ( )
Date: September 29, 2012 12:50AM


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Posted by: Xyandro ( )
Date: September 29, 2012 10:07PM

Like you'd know... :)

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Posted by: james ( )
Date: September 29, 2012 12:36AM

"Topping" was maybe not the right word.

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