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Posted by: hexalm ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 01:18AM

It just dawned on me that a lot of the native groups to the north of me, in Western Canada and up through Alaska, do not have dark skin at all.

In fact, you could mistake some of these folks for Europeans, based on their skin tone. I knew a woman who is half Alaskan native and half Tulalip (I think--that's a Washington/Puget Sound tribe).

I guess the Mormon apologist would chalk it up to other groups that came over (for which there are also zero evidence), or interbreeding, or any number of other excuses, up to and including migration from Asia. Which, even if BoM migrations were to be believed, Mormons would have a hard time disputing.

I guess my thought isn't as interesting as I thought, but interesting to consider.

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Posted by: ghost buster ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 01:24AM

I remember in seminary learning about some tribe of white native americans on the east coast somewhere that nobody could explain (except, of course, for the mormons).

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Posted by: Cantdoit ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 01:40AM

I am from the pnw, and all the native Americans I have run across look like native Americans. I have spent a fair amount of time at there casinos and went to high school with a number of them...

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Posted by: hexalm ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 01:59AM

Your point being...?

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Posted by: hexalm ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 02:11AM

I should clarify that I may have been mistaken when I said ,'lots', and the geographical area I'm referring to is further north than the PNW, unless that includes the area around Alaska.

I forget the exact details, but I believe this was mentioned in an anthropology type book I read, once, and may have around still. Plus I met one of them...

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 01:47AM

There are five haplogroups of mtDNA (mitochondrial) and two y-Chromosome ones (passed on from father to son; mtDNA is inherited from our mothers). They are all closely related to Asian tribes found in Siberia among the Altai near Lake Baikal.

With autosomal DNA (found in the nucleus), European admixture would be easily detected, and because of the "gene migration" (where lengths of DNA are "swapped" in paired chromosomes), it's a simple matter for scientists to determine "pre" versus "post" 1492 genetic contributions (there are none of the former). SNP's (single nucleotide polymorphisms) occur that allow the "length" of the DNA "ladder" to be determined. Those lengths would've been appreciably shorter if an individuals ancestors had arrived in 600 B.C. rather than in, say, the 18th or 19th Century.

Information on this matter has been published by the Sorenson Molecular Institute, incidentally, which is wholly subsidized and owned by Mormons. You can bet if anything had been found they would've been trumpeting that news loudly.

Simon Southerton has been on a "sabbatical" from posting on this board for a time, but you can review his information from his blogsite. It also shines a blinding spotlight on the claims of apologetics operations like FAIR.

http://simonsoutherton.blogspot.com/

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Posted by: hexalm ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 02:01AM

Thanks. I was actually thinking along the lines of "explain that one, Mormons!" until I realized that their beliefs would easily have an 'explanation' for it.

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Posted by: Mia ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 01:53AM

I've 'heard' but haven't read or studied up on the topic that there is a tribe of white indians in either central or south America.

Rumor has it that these are some righteous lamanites that escaped the wrath of all the wars because of their righteousness.

Does anyone know anything about that?

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Posted by: jackc ( )
Date: October 10, 2012 06:35PM

Don't forget the story of Zelph the white lamanite re. JS and zions camp.

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