I've told my family basic things that I've found out about the church and things that I dont understand about doctrine. But they are saying that I must be getting all of this from "anti-mormon" sites and that its all probably lies. They want to see evidence from church resources.

I am of course going to do my own research and put together stuff, but I was wondering if anyone would be will to help with giving me things you've found from church resources that make you question the church. Thank you!!

please be more specific about your question...what doctrine are you arguing about?

You are not going to find in their church history things to confirm whatever falsehoods you are looking for. They have sanitized it to much. There is the fact that everything is about "obedience". Whatever you are told to do you are expected to do it. There is guilt that comes with thinking you have failed to live up to your priesthood. Secret handshakes and I'll also be as bold as to mention secret names and the silly green hats/aprons. I will also say that no one ever got a DUI from Iced Tea.

Here's something you can do. Go to Google Images and look up Isis and Osiris. Look at a lot of pictures of them and get to know them on sight. Then turn to Facsimile 3 in the Book of Abraham. Find them in the image. Now look down at Joseph Smith's "explanations." Have your family explain that one.

I recommend the Book of Abraham. It's their book. If they believe it was translated from ancient writings, you are done debating. Find an alternate course.

What subject do you want to talk about?

Here's some that will get their attention:

Shows Joseph's wives:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/M18D-5C8

Fair admitting Joseph had polyandrus wives (married to other men):
http://www.fairlds.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/katich-a-tale-of-two-marriage-systems.pdf

Journal of discourse weird things:
http://www.mrm.org/journalgems

Online reference of journal of discourages:
http://journalofdiscourses.com/

Book by Lucy Mack (this is the HIGHLY edited version edited by the church - but it still has Joseph Srs. tree of life vision and Lucy saying Joseph made up stories about Lamanites/Nephites before receiving the plates)
http://www.bookofmormonbookoflies.com/pdfs/LucySmithBiographicalSketchesofJosephSmith.pdf


Changes to first vision:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_the_Life_of_Joseph_Smith
http://josephsmithpapers.org/paperSummary/journal-1835%E2%80%931836#23
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Wentworth_Letter

Original scans:

Book of Abraham
http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_TOC.html

Joseph Smith letter to Emma (very incriminating)
http://user.xmission.com/~research/family/strange.htm
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Letter_from_Joseph_Smith_to_the_Whitneys_%2818_August_1842%29

Also this page has lots of good stuff from official news sources and quotes from early leaders that could be looked up:
http://www.mormonprobe.com/index.php?topic=By%20Their%20Fruits

This would also be good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwUTVQ4mfNE



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Your request is kind of like asking someone to quickly document the history of the United States. There's so much, where to begin?

I suggest doing some studying of your own. Here are some good sources. Print these off, highlight the Mormon sources and show the best ones to your folks.

http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/changecontents.htm
http://home.teleport.com/~packham/tract.htm