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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: February 12, 2013 04:06PM

I'm trying to get my mind around this recent trial
evidence/testimony.

How does an LDS elder make his girlfriend feel like
"a goddess"... when their intimate activities fall
well outside of the published rules of their religion?

I can imagine some FLDS deviant using his authority
to "reveal" secret sanctioned pre-marital activities
to a would-be female partner --- even promising her
some sort of eternal progression for compliance.

But didn't that sort of promiscuous seduction disappear
from the Church after Smith was assassinated? Didn't
the linkage between illegal sexual acts and progression
to godhood fade away after 1890?

What am I missing here?

UD

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Posted by: Dent ( )
Date: February 12, 2013 04:25PM

he described her as a "nympho", so anything he did with her sexually made her feel like a goddess. According to her they had a*** sex a few hours after he baptized her. He said that didn't count since it wasn't v-sex.

All of his friends have said that she was the aggressor. That's the word on the street; who knows what the real version is.

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Posted by: sistersalamander ( )
Date: February 12, 2013 05:28PM

Recently. she's been testifying that he was abusive: forced sex, name-calling, and beatings -- even a broken finger and bruised ribs.

Hard to reconcile that with the "goddess" scenario.

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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: February 12, 2013 06:07PM

sistersalamander Wrote:
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> Recently. she's been testifying that he was
> abusive: forced sex, name-calling, and beatings --
> even a broken finger and bruised ribs.
>
> Hard to reconcile that with the "goddess"
> scenario.


If even 10% of her testimony is true, then probably
those "feel like a goddess" moments were times of
exhilaration, due to highly enjoyable male attention
and, perhaps, some strange exercise of her own power.

She never mentions the possibility of her getting
pregnant, so the "goddess" fantasy must have centered
upon some factor other than producing spirit children,
or populating future LDS worlds.

Maybe it centered on the oddity of her living out the
life of a "freaky" Mormon girl, and not that of a
"wallflower" Mormon female. Their forbidden intimate
encounters were made OK by his authorizing certain
activities not allowed to the other gals in her
singles ward.

Maybe it's only my imagination, but this whole relationship,
"goddess" and all, stinks of Nauvoo, 1842 in my mind.

UD

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Posted by: thingsithink ( )
Date: February 12, 2013 10:55PM

"Maybe it's only my imagination, but this whole relationship,
"goddess" and all, stinks of Nauvoo, 1842 in my mind."

Somehow I think that of the millions following this trial, you're the only one who had that thought. :)

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Posted by: inmoland ( )
Date: February 12, 2013 09:31PM

This trial really gets to me because there are so many abused women who have to fight to be taken seriously, and it hurts every of them when one manipulator like Arias tries to claim abuse to get out of trouble.

They played recordings today of some of her chats with the guy, and it comes across as nothing more than a woman who's using sex to try to get a sexually immature, rather sleazy guy who's just not that into her otherwise. There's nothing forced on her end; she's giggling, flirting, complimenting him on his prowess, and telling him she likes his kinky fantasies. The prosecution also had a former BF of hers testify that she'd had A-sex with him, too, so her testimony about her unahappiness about Travis wanting that from her doesn't fly, either.

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