Brother Of Jerry Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's like refusing to leave a traffic roundabout > you were coerced to enter. You just go round and > round, getting nowhere and becoming nauseous.
True, but I have an even better example. Getting a dishonorable discharge from an army you were conscripted into.
> Unfortunately, I have no snappy counter-metaphors > for Distressed Spouse Syndrome. Just sympathy.
Then save her. If you live in Utah, put in for a job transfer and get the poor woman out of here. Take more weekend trips. Get creative. You can love her right out of TSCC.
I was excommunicated. I later sent in a letter, when I heard a rumor that I was only disfellowshiped, which was probably my punishment for skipping my "Court of Love" in order to have sex with the woman I was being punished for having sex with, so I sent in a letter anyways. I never heard back from that letter though, and that was almost a year ago, so I am thinking I either was excommunicated, or they couldn't find my membership record, because I have a super common name, and only a vague idea of what unit had my records.
Has she read the 132 section of the D&C. Does she realize that the fact that that section has not been revised means that it is still scripture. The entire section is still scripture. That is the equality that TSCC preaches.
Every home that has a framed Proclamation of the Family, should also have a framed copy of the 132 section of the D&C.
We've been over all the information I "have received" and like in the temple, she is "the man."
PETER: Good morning.
LUCIFER: Good morning gentlemen.
PETER: What are you doing here?
LUCIFER: Observing the teachings of these people.
PETER: What is being taught?
LUCIFER: The philosophies of men, mingled with scripture.
PETER: How is this teaching received?
LUCIFER: Very well! Except this man does not seem to believe what is being taught.
She doesn't doubt that things were different and weirder back in the day, but in talking to her father (former stake pres) she has adopted his stance - The Church is still developing.
I figure whether or not to resign is a personal decision that has a different answer for different people.
For some people not even giving the church the respect to resign is their preference and I totally respect that.
For others like me, the clear statement of resigning was an important part of the process. Some reasons resigning was the right choice for me:
- I wanted to formally renounce my temple covenants I had made and feel zero responsibility to them and have no guilt for saying things like: "health in the navel, marrow in the bones, strength in the the loins and in the sinews..."
- I wanted to take a clear stance that I was not a member of such a destructive organization and that my name was not on record of supporting it, even implicitly.
- I wanted to establish a clear line with TBM friends and family that I was not wishy-washy about this and that any attempts to reconvert me were a waste of effort.
- Living in Utah, I wanted to be able to answer "no" with no internal hedging or explanation when asked "Are you a Mormon?"
- Besides I like the bragging rights that I have resigned when talking to other exmos, heh.
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The Oncoming Storm - bc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > - Besides I like the bragging rights that I have > resigned when talking to other exmos, heh.
I didn't mean to sound like everyone should resign. Avoiding family drama is a perfectly good reason. Ditto for neighborhood or job drama. You should get to pick your own fights.
As for TOS's reasons, they cover precisely why I resigned. Well stated. I would add one more reason: I am not on any ward membership roster, and will not be assigned Home Teachers, will not get called to clean the building, and will not get any phone calls from the exec secretary to come in and meet with the bishop. (I know, being in a part member family can muddy that issue)
I didn't resign so I could lower their claimed membership numbers. With or without me, those numbers are fiction.
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The Oncoming Storm - bc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I figure whether or not to resign is a personal > decision that has a different answer for different > people. > > For some people not even giving the church the > respect to resign is their preference and I > totally respect that. > > For others like me, the clear statement of > resigning was an important part of the process. > Some reasons resigning was the right choice for > me: > > - I wanted to formally renounce my temple > covenants I had made and feel zero responsibility > to them and have no guilt for saying things like: > "health in the navel, marrow in the bones, > strength in the the loins and in the sinews..." > > - I wanted to take a clear stance that I was not a > member of such a destructive organization and that > my name was not on record of supporting it, even > implicitly. > > - I wanted to establish a clear line with TBM > friends and family that I was not wishy-washy > about this and that any attempts to reconvert me > were a waste of effort. > > - Living in Utah, I wanted to be able to answer > "no" with no internal hedging or explanation when > asked "Are you a Mormon?" > > - Besides I like the bragging rights that I have > resigned when talking to other exmos, heh.
Well said BC. These are some of the same reasons I resigned too.
If someone is suffering from harassment and they hate it, I'd encourage them to go ahead and resign or they might have to take some rather extreme measures to protect their privacy.
I see resigning kind of like unsubscribing to some stupid magazine you don't like that someone signed you up for. You're just gonna have to call up the dang company and tell them to unsubscribe you. Of course, its a different story if your wife did it.
I'd love to resign! But consideration for the feelings of deluded loved ones prevents it. Like you, I feel I have no contract with them. Eight year olds can't make contracts. As for temple covenants, screw them. I was coerced and/or duped into that. They're meaningless and culty.
BTW, I'm rationalguy. Had to re-register because my password manager crashed, and I apparently registered with no email.
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