Has anyone here EVER heard of ANYONE being denied a TR because
of eating too much meat? The D&C 89 specifically says:

12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I,
the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving;
nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;

13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used,
only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.

My former neighbor was a voracious carnivore. He ate meat,
meat, and more meat and would wash it down with a half-gallon
of ice cream. He was extremely obese but he was in the
bishopric. He had a TR; he was considered someone who
obediently followed "the Lord's health code."

Or could it be that since there is no simplistic. clear
dividing line between "sparingly" and "overindulgent" this is
not a useful way for the leaders to control the members?
Could it be that "too much meat" would involve actual thought
and judgment by the members rather than just childlike,
knee-jerk obedience? Is it that rather than deal with
something that's not clearly black-and-white thinking, they
just ignore it altogether?

Medical studies have shown that a single glass of red wine
with supper is good for your health. The Bible,
interestingly, concurs. Joseph Smith drank wine repeatedly
during his life and the apostles used to have wine at their
weekly meetings until shortly into the 20th century. In fact,
the last thing in life that Joseph Smith ate or drank was
wine. He "sealed his testimony" with wine in his belly Yet
today drinking that one glass of wine would disqualify someone
from getting a TR while gorging on meat and giant,
high-calorie desserts day after day is not a problem.

Is God nuts?

Science is just now finding the health benefits of coffee and
tea--green tea especially. But drinking coffee can make you
unworthy to attend your child's wedding ceremony while porking
out on meat, meat, meat, and ice cream makes you worthy enough
to be in the bishopric.

Let me ask again: has ANYONE ever heard of ANYONE being
denied a TR because of excessive meat eating?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2013 01:58PM by baura.

Never heard of it happening, thank heaven

Not a temple recommend, but I once saw a person oppose the sustaining of a new counselor in the bishopric for this reason. They said they had seen the man eat the 1 lb. burger at Fuddruckers and that they shouldn't sustain a man that didn't obey the WoW. Okay...that never happened. I doubt that anyone has ever been asked specifically about their meat intake in a TR interview.

I think my greatest moment of disappointment upon becoming an atheist, was the realization that there was no heavenly version of Gold Coral awaiting me after I died.

I want to know how many mormons are treating their bruises and cattle with tobacco......

D&C Verse 8: And again, tobacco is not for the body, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

The church owns some big cattle ranches....you would think they would own a few tobacco plantations to keep those cows healthy.

And when was the last time you went to a priesthood or RS meeting and received instruction on how to use tobacco with judgement and skill?

I have never read that passage with much thought and um...wow. So apparently The Lord appointed all the animals (a very important food source in every culture) for the use of one, solely American, holiday thousands of years later and MAYBE during winter or when you're starving. Makes sense.

"...The Lord appointed all the animals (a very important food source in every culture)..."

Not Japan... and people live longer there. Get the hint.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2013 02:22PM by rander70.

hmmm...good point :P

In D&C 98:11 "thanksgiving" is not capitalized.

Oh okay. Dang pesky misinterpretations on my part!

Never seen it but I agree with it.

When I first left I was still good friends with a member of my former bishopric. He didn't appreciate it when I said I had enjoyed the first beer of my life. Meanwhile he was downing a double cheeseburger, fries and large Dr. Pepper. He is well over 350, and at age 64 you wouldn't think he should have as good a quality of life physically as he does.

He's on a mission now in some SA country. Hopefully the different diets down there will help him lose weight.

I drink coffee every morning and I couldn't participate in the temple, but TSCC keeps put more X's into the XXXXXL garments for 'worthy' people. Luckily I have less interest in going to the temple than I do in watching paint dry.