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Posted by: notreturning ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 12:06PM

Enjoying Sunday again since leaving TSCC I can now enjoy a beer but DW now thinks I have a drink problem. What is it with TBM that make them so judgemental. HELP

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 12:19PM

Most physicians will easily sign off on up to two glasses of beer or wine a day for a generally healthy individual. Perhaps you can get your physician to sign a note saying that he is okaying alcoholic beverage consumption for you within a certain range.

There seems to be a problem within Mormonism about understanding normal consumption vs. problematic consumption.

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Posted by: snowball ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 12:25PM

This post reminds me of "Burn After Reading" when Osborne Cox tells his CIA supervisor, who accuses him of having a "drinking problem": "F--- you Peck! You're a Mormon. Compared to you we all have a drinking problem."

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Posted by: notnewatthisanymore ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 12:27PM

Mormonism in a nutshell:
I saw boobs in a movie = porn addict
I accidentally touched my penis and it felt good = sex addict
I have a glass of wine once a month or so = alcoholic


In short. You can't win, Mormons have s malformed view of addiction, it is very black and white. This hit me hard one day as a Mormon when I was in a conversation with this lady who was convinced she had a shopping addiction, when all it was was that she liked to go to the mall every Saturday and window shop.

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Posted by: southern should login ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 12:33PM

Sit down with her and a pamphlet on alcoholism, talk with her about the identifying characteristics and habits of an alcoholic and how those do not apply to you. Then talk with her about how she is insulting your integrity and also diminishing the very real experiences of women who are married to actual alcoholics. Perhaps she would like to speak with some women as she volunteers at a women's shelter to learn what life is really like when your husband has a "drinking problem."

Education and a reality check are necessary here.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 12:39PM

Judgementalism, shaming, and guilting are the fuels that feed the Mormon engine.

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Posted by: druid ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 12:40PM

Back when I was TBM and at a conference with colleagues I made a big deal and insisted on taking the keys from the driver of the van after he had only had one drink with food and it had been over three hours.

I had no clue concerning judgment and alcohol amount and time- It was just like, you drank, you are drunk. To make things worse I got pulled over on the way back to the hotel, and they were all hooting with laughter in the back as I talked to the police.

You could agree to go a week with out just to prove you are not an addict.....to alcohol, not sex.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2013 12:43PM by druid.

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Posted by: notreturninga ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 12:46PM

OMG notnewatthisanymore you have summed this up totally my thoughts entirely

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Posted by: Glo ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 03:02PM

You sound like a convert who joined for the little woman.

Keep an eye on her attitude - once a TBM spouse becomes judgemental and turns against you, the marriage is pretty well over.

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Posted by: finalfrontier ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 04:11PM

It is not that she is judgemental, its that she's been brainwashed to think that since any drinking is bad, any drinking is a drinking problem.
You should show her studies on actual alcoholism, so that she can understand what it is, and how you are not having a drinking problem as far as medicine is concerned.

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Posted by: EXON46 ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 04:16PM

There is no shame in putting your drink in a sippy cup if you have trouble with spillage.

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Posted by: Geezer ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 04:27PM

"I don't have a drinking problem.
I can drink 12 beers without barfing."

Phineas Phreak

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fabulous_Furry_Freak_Brothers

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Posted by: finalfrontier ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 04:34PM

Very much like when bishop asked "do you have any problems with masturbation" No bishop, works just fine.

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Posted by: Lasvegasrichard ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 04:32PM

I've known many people ( male and female ) who were alcoholics . There is a huge difference in a social or recreational imbiber. They all shared the same common behavior . They started drinking first thing in the morning . They all would hide their alcohol . They all got up from their sleep to get a drink . And without fail the alcohol ruled their lives by interfering with work , friends , and family . Perception is everything .

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Posted by: Lenina ( )
Date: November 10, 2013 04:37PM

My son's school psychologist thought I had a drinking problem. No, I've never had a drink. I behave this way because I'm bipolar. I tell people that and they still don't get it. They still wonder why I behave erratically, irresponsibly.

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