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Posted by: heretic ( )
Date: November 18, 2013 08:59PM

Approximately one month ago, on Sunday radio between 10-10:30am, a Mormon Apologist
explained why the Mormon Temple Endowment wasn't taken from the Masons.
He went point by point, with great care not to violate anything sacred, to prove his point.

Does anyone know how to access the audio of this show, even just a transcript would be appreciated?

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: November 18, 2013 09:32PM

WTF? Even Jeff Holland admitted that it was taken from Freemasonry. In the early Mormon church, they referred to the endowment as "True Masonry." Goddammit. I hate it when people try to change stories.

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Posted by: NotSoSure ( )
Date: November 18, 2013 09:37PM

I'm slowly reading "Wife No. 19" and she is describing her endowment. They didn't start in a creation room and move to a telestial room, etc. No, when they completed a step it was called a degree. First degree, second degree, and finally third degree. Gee, why does that sound so much like Masonry if it's not related???

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: November 18, 2013 09:44PM

heretic:

If the originating station is profit-minded, and has the rights to publish... contact them.
Depending on the market, there may be an 'underground' group that records off-the-air and makes an archive.

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