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Posted by: hayduke ( )
Date: February 01, 2014 12:45AM


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Posted by: Maverick ( )
Date: February 01, 2014 04:19AM

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They did a really good job of obfuscation here, I've got to hand it to them. Their use of technical jargon will glaze enough eyes that any TBMs reading it will likely skip to the "Conclusion" section where they declare all of the data is inconclusive, so just read and pray instead.

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Posted by: outsider ( )
Date: February 01, 2014 12:36PM

Ha, the funny thing is that they proved a footnote for the claim that Joey boy was open to other migrations, and referred to an article in the Seasons and Times from 1842.

Looked it up and here it is.

"“FACTS ARE STUBBORN THINGS.”
From an extract from “Stephens’ Incidents of Travel in Central America,” it will be seen that the proof of the Nephites and Lamanites [921] dwelling on this continent, according to the account in the Book of Mormon, is developing itself in a more satisfactory way than the most sanguine believer in that revelation, could have anticipated. It certainly affords us a gratification that the world of mankind does not enjoy, to give publicity to such important developements of the remains and ruins of those mighty people.

"When we read in the Book of Mormon that Jared and his brother came on to this continent from the confusion and scattering at the Tower, and lived here more than a thousand years, and covered the whole continent from sea to sea, with towns and cities; and that Lehi went down by the Red Sea to the great Southern Ocean, and crossed over to this land, and landed a little south of the Isthmus of Darien, and improved the country according to the word of the Lord, as a branch of the house of Israel, and then read such a goodly traditionary account, as the one below, we can not but think the Lord has a hand in bringing to pass his strange act, and proving the Book of Mormon true in the eyes of all the people. The extract below, comes as near the real fact, as the four Evangelists do to the crucifixion of Jesus.—Surely “facts are stubborn things.” It will be as it ever has been, the world will prove Joseph Smith a true prophet by circumstantial evidence, in experiments, as they did Moses and Elijah."

If the Morg wants to claim that JS wrote or authorized this article, then they have to acknowledge that Smith is clearly stating that the Jerodites covered the continent from sea to sea.

It also points to a clear impossibility in the BoM, there was no Tower and confusion of languages.

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Posted by: Das boot ( )
Date: February 01, 2014 04:11PM

TSCC is ballsy and they admit right in front of your eyes and you read it and don't think anything of it.

"Although the primary purpose of the Book of Mormon is more spiritual than historical,".

Right there in the beginning of the sentence. If we live in the "fullness of times" then why can't they prove the historical accuracy of it?

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