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Posted by: monomo27 ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 03:38PM

http://www.uvureview.com/2014/02/08/single-mormon-female/

This article is about a late twenties female who wanted to go to the temple without a man... Gasp! And the reactions she received.

This makes me sad that a woman is treated this way. Are you sure there's no one you could marry? As if it's that simple. Jerks.

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Posted by: notnewatthisanymore ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 03:48PM

" I simply refuse to believe that LDS men are that vapid and shallow."

News flash, they are. So are the women. They are all shallow and vapid. Surprise!

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Posted by: koriwhoremonger ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 03:52PM

Not that she isn't married, but because her religion is nothing but hobbles around her ankles and she can't/wont see it.

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Posted by: Southern Utah Apostate ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 04:06PM

I've heard this story many times. The girl wants prince charming who is also mister brains. I call it Disney Princess Syndrome. Some day the cog dis will catch up w her and bring her out of the church.

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Posted by: notnewatthisanymore ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 04:14PM

I've seen this a lot at BYU. The guys are looking for a Barbie with a testimony, and the girls are looking for prince charming with the priesthood and an advanced degree (from a "sexy" field, not just any will do). The girls all complain about the guys only asking out the "hot" girls, and the guys all complain about the girls friendzoning them immediately. And they are both right. It is the most bizarre place for social interactions between opposite genders.

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Posted by: Southern Utah Apostate ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 04:21PM

And half or more will end in divorce. Yes, very bizarre.

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Posted by: EmmaWho ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 04:09PM

I went through the temple sans man or mission when I was 22. It was in 1997 shortly after some announcement at some level of church leadership declaring that any worthy adult could take out their endowments. So I did.

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Posted by: freckles ( )
Date: February 11, 2014 12:40AM

I had a friend who did the same thing. She ended up being my escort when I was endowed/married. Of course the bishop thought it was a great opportunity for her. I didn't understand why until later. He wanted her to get married and thought being my escort would hurry her along.

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Posted by: sanitationengineer ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 04:56PM

And of course her requirements for a dating prospect...

“all I want is a guy who is my equal intellectually and doesn't look at porn.”

All too predicatable, because we all know pron is the root of all evil, the cause of immaturity, and a host of other societal ills.

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Posted by: icedtea ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 05:27PM

My TBM first husband had severe sexual behavioral addictions, including online porn (30-50 websites, perhaps 2-4 hours every night and often during the day). I don't blame the author of this article for wanting a guy who isn't into porn.

For the woman who gets rejected while her man is wanking off to hot teen Asian lesbian models, it's humiliating and degrading. It damages the relationship -- if there is much of one left after he does this repeatedly.

Plus, there are now studies that show how consistent porn use literally rewires the brain.

She may find a man who doesn't do porn, but if she's looking for a temple-worthy TBM on her intellectual level, it's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

As another poster pointed out, the guys want Barbie with a testimony. They avoid intelligent women because brainpower either bores, intimidates, or threatens them. (And, yes, some of those TBM guys have admitted as much to me).

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 06:07PM

Wow. Remind me again, just how many hours are in a day? He must have worked part-time.

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Posted by: icedtea ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 08:51PM

He nearly got fired for doing it at work -- at more than one job. When he came home, he usually went straight to the bathroom and locked the door. He stayed in there for hours sometimes. He quit sleeping in our bedroom part way through the marriage and stayed up til the wee hours, doing his thing online (while pretending he wasn't). Even when I caught him, he still denied everything and said that somebody else had put that stuff on his computer (and in his briefcase, and in the linen closet, and in the DVD player...) and that he was just checking it out to try to figure out how it got there. It got to the point where he had injuries down there from jerking off so much.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: February 11, 2014 12:20PM

Yeah, that would really be an uncommon addiction. I also don't know how one would begin to overcome it.

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Posted by: verilyverily ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 05:42PM

This young woman is WAY too intelligent for TSCC.
After the bishop interview, I would have ran to the nearest computer to type up my resignation letter.
This woman makes me believe in brainwashing on a new level. If they can get someone this smart, we are never going to see the end of TSCC..
This does answer a question that was posted a few days ago about lesbians in the Temple. I guess this woman's story answers that!

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Posted by: Phantom Shadow ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 06:48PM

Interesting. A few years ago after my niece graduated from college her bishop gave her a temple recommend and sent her to "get her endowments." I had the impression that this was a new policy--to keep them virginal or something.

Years later she's still not married and having a great life. She's a beautiful young woman and has a group of friends she travels with. No mention of her ever going on a mission, and now that I think of it, no mention of her ever having a boyfriend. Most of her siblings are married so there are plenty of grandchildren.

I don't know her well though, and it would never occur to me to ask her a nosy question about her status.

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Posted by: frankie ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 08:21PM

why these Mormons have to intertwine marriage with progressing deeper into ones religion. A outsider would say "How are the two related?"

She was asked the upper men for permission to divulge deeper into the religion, and they ask her who she's is dating. She is like "what do those two things have anything to do with each other?"

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Posted by: nationalnewscampaign ( )
Date: February 10, 2014 10:48PM

An acquaintance of mine left the church out of spite in a similar situation. She went to BYU, graduated, went on a mission, served honorably, came home, got a great job, and couldn't find anybody to marry.

She's attractive and nice and felt that TSCC broke its contract with her after all that, so she up and left the church after a few years.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 11, 2014 12:49AM

how old, where (region) does she live... (hint/wink)

GNPE

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Posted by: imaworkinonit ( )
Date: February 11, 2014 12:58AM

I went to the temple in my mid-20s, without a mission or a man.

And I got asked some of the same annoying questions. My bishop sent me home to pray about going on a mission. God didn't answer, so I stayed home. That was the one prayer I'm glad he didn't answer.

Dating in your mid to late 20s in the church is a wasteland. The poor girl.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: February 11, 2014 01:01AM

If I had been in that interview, I think I would have said, "Um, bishop, I didn't come here to talk about my love life. I came to get a temple recommend. Didn't I make that clear?"

I was a divorced thirtysomething the first time I went to the temple. NOBODY gave me any crap about being single. I would have been shocked if they had.

And I totally agree with that young woman. My TBM husband is still surprised - after all these years - when I tell him, in all sincerity, that his level of intelligence, his wit, his kindness, and his integrity were the first things that attracted me to him. He didn't have a lot of money, never was what you would call a Hollywood-level stunner, and certainly did not drive a "hot" vehicle (actually, it was a worn-out old clunker, but it was paid for, and that scored points in my book!) We both value education and love to share ideas and discuss what we understood from books or movies.

I dated an absolutely STUNNING guy once in college - I mean, this guy could make traffic stop - but he had the IQ of a shoe tree and just wasn't fun to be with. There was never a second date.

I hope the young woman who wrote the column doesn't lower her values just to get paired off with somebody.

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Posted by: Utah County Mom ( )
Date: February 11, 2014 12:32PM

Hm, I took out my endowments at the age of 23, in my first year of graduate school at BYU. My bishop and stake president were all for it--the only odd reactions I got were from some new roommates who were returned missionaries--it was as if I hadn't earned the right to get my endowments.

Looking back, I know my desire to take out my endowments was a solace after the break up of a 4-year relationship.

It seemed like the right thing to do at the time. I think it's stupid, the negative reactions this gal is getting. She's lovely and intelligent--she'd make a great ex-mo!!!

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