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Posted by: GreatApostate ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 11:44PM

If there was no Great Apostasy, then no need for a Restoration.

Protestants, who had Bibles based upon the Latin Vulgate, would quote Peter writing: "the Day of the Lord shall not come lest there be a falling away first". They used this verse to convince others that the Church (i.e. Roman Catholic Church) had "fallen away".

They were wrong.

Mormon missionaries use it to show how all of Christendom has fallen away. They are wrong.

In the original Greek it says "apostasia" which means, in Greek, NOT "falling away" (as it does in Latin), but rather "rebellion". Peter was saying that the "Day of the Lord", which refers to the events the Lord described in Matthew Chapter 24 (NOT to His second coming), would not come until the "apostasia" (rebellion) came first. Indeed, this happened. The "rebellion" of the Jews against Roman occupation came in 67 A.D. to 70 A.D., when the Temple and Jerusalem were destroyed, and the Jewish rebels defeated by Roman armies. This is what Jesus was referring to when he said to look for the Eagles (Roman Standards) gathering, and then the Sun would be darkened, the Moon turn to blood, and the stars falling. When Jerusalem was set on fire, the Sun was darkened, and the smoke in the air made the Moon appear blood read, and the Roman catapults sent fire-laden tar balls upon the city (stars falling from heaven). THAT is the "Great Apostasy" that occurred over 42 months/3 and 1/2 years.

Another common MIStranslation in Mormon scripture is the phrase "Only Begotten". This is a MIStranlation of the Greek word MONOGENES (Only Kind or "Unique"). St. Jerome thought it means "Only Begotten". The Greek words for Only Begotten would be MONO GENAO, and these words DO NOT APPEAR anywhere in the Greek New Testament. In other words, St. Jerome BLEW IT! The phrase "Only Begotten" appears numerous times throughout the Book of Mormon, and in the D&C and also the Book of Moses! All based upon a 4th century MIStranslation. All more evidence that the Church is NOT what it claims to be.

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Posted by: glad2see ( )
Date: February 19, 2014 08:19AM

.cool ..thank you for sharing

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Posted by: dot ( )
Date: February 19, 2014 12:51PM

topping - cool stuff!

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: February 19, 2014 01:06PM

"We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly"*

*And we base a lot of our doctrine on it, which of course, comes straight from God, who fixed all the translation mistakes, so that our doctrine is based on the original True and Everlasting Word of God and the original meaning and intent of the Bible, so that, the....uh....umm, and, and, uh....errr...ummmmmm....."

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: February 19, 2014 01:41PM

I just realized that this post is even funnier because the Mormons claim that Jesus WAS actually the "unique" son of God, which would be correct, but instead of fixing this misunderstanding about "Only Begotten" and "unique", neither Joseph Smith nor ANY of the circle jerk of other prophets & mucky-mucks fixed it, even though they could have pointed out another "bull's-eye" proving the church is true.....

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Posted by: kirchoff ( )
Date: February 21, 2014 06:23PM

Do TBMs believe "black and white" that this great apostasy continued until the 1820s, that everyone was in the dark regarding Jesus Christ?

How does that explain Martin Luther and others? Weren't they the real restorers?

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