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Posted by: southern Idaho inactive ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 07:41PM


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Posted by: deco ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 07:43PM

NO! Do not give them money.

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Posted by: PapaKen ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 08:21PM

+1

It's YOUR decision, not the LD$ church's.

And they're a fraudulent cult.

So, NO!

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Posted by: ConcernedCitizen ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 09:02PM

...give a few bucks to homeless people you see. God will appreciate that much more.............

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 03:06PM

I wouldn't even do that if I was collected unemployment. When I have a little extra to share, I share, but when things are tight, I take care of my needs and the needs of my family first.

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 07:43PM

You don`t have to.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 07:46PM

It depends on your bishop and what a hard@$$ he is or not.

I've heard of bishops telling poverty-level students that they
have to pay tithing on their scholarships. You got a
tuition-waver that covers $15,000 in tuition that you'd
otherwise have to pay? Then you owe $1,500 in tithing.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 07:55PM

You are not supposed to pay money to Pharisees.

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 08:00PM

Most governments would not be pleased to discover that someone was giving 10% of the tax-payers money to a church. Unemployment insurance is supposed to be for living expenses.

Some people do choose to pay their tithing on government assistance anyway, in fear of losing a blessing. They think if they pay, that God will bless them faster with a new job. But the Bishop can`t force you to pay, or otherwise call you unworthy.

Several times I renewed my temple recommend while between jobs, without paying any tithing. The Bishop just said, "No, you don't have to pay on your unemployment insurance."

If you offer it, they don't say, "No," though.

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 03:11PM

What's really sickening is that when I worked in a Marriott Hotel, we had a convention for ministers who worked with poor urban congregations. Every single minister showed up in a $100,000 car, perfectly washed and waxed, wearing designer suits, with their wives wearing jewelry that cost more than any of their congregants saw in an entire year. All their money came from people who were on government support, and had a minimum wage paying job at best.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 08:07PM

You're supposed to pay tithing on wages. Unemployment assistance monies are not wages.

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Posted by: rationalist01 ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 08:12PM

The concept is to make you feel guilty and wonder about this every time you receive money. They'll take the money, you can bet on it. Don't give it to them.

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Posted by: Charlotte Darwin ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 08:21PM

Tithing is always optional, whether you earn wages or not. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. They are obviously lying. Besides, why does a megabillion church need your money?

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Posted by: adoylelb ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 08:53PM

To me, you've been paying into the unemployment insurance program while working, which means that if you pay tithing on unemployment, you're paying it twice. I think the whole thing is extortion the way the Morg puts such an emphasis on it. They use guilt to make sure people pay it, as shown by that thread about retirees paying on their retirement income which was already tithed on.

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Posted by: anonman ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 08:54PM

All taxes paid into the unemployment compensation fund are paid by employers.

It is NOT funding by any taxes that are withheld from an employees pay.

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Posted by: Lonesome Stranger ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 09:01PM

If the Morg had its way, it'd take ALL of your welfare payment, and your blood too.

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Posted by: mew ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 09:11PM

Well, one bishop told us it was completely up to us because it is not "earned" income AND we needed it more.

Another bishop told us we need to pay. regardless.

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Posted by: frankie ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 09:32PM

Southern Idaho Inactive, are you just playing around with us. Your not TBM

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Posted by: southern idaho inactive ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 12:28PM

No. I'm not playing around . I need to know if I have to give them tithing or not. Although it's like $1.13!

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 01:12PM

southern idaho inactive Wrote:
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> No. I'm not playing around . I need to know if I
> have to give them tithing or not. Although it's
> like $1.13!


No, you don't. Unemployment or disability money has no tithing obligation on them.

Tithing is paid on 'income,' according to their Handbook.

Unemployment or disability payments by the government are assistance, not income.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/2014 01:24PM by Greyfort.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: March 27, 2014 10:07PM

If you offer it they will accept it.

If offered grudgingly (Do I haaave too?) it will be accepted, and you will also be guilt-tripped.

BTW, unemployment compensation is also taxed as regular income in the US. Rich people have better lobbyists than poor people. If it is taxed as income, an argument can be made that it should be tithed.

OTOH, inheritances, up to some ungodly level, are tax free (unless they are from untaxed money, like a 401K). LDS Inc no doubt thinks those should be tithed too.

Here is the basic rule: they always want their 10% cut.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 01:02PM

pay pay pay pay on everything except gambling winnings and then get someone else to deliver the cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 01:31PM

SII:

send your checks / payments to me, I'll take care of it!

no fuss, no worries!

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Posted by: Doxi ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 01:40PM

WHY are you still paying tithing and supporting a fraud?

(I'm not being snarky, I'd really like to know. Is someone forcing you?)

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Posted by: southern Idaho inactive ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 01:51PM

I think that my tbm dad might have me pay in the hopes of me getting another job. It's pretty bleak out for jobs..!

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 02:02PM

I'd bet if you told the government that 10% of their assistance was going to a church, they'd cut you off.

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Posted by: anonman ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 05:41PM

Nope. He is free to spend that money however he wants.

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Posted by: L Tom Petty ( )
Date: March 28, 2014 02:05PM

If you pay tithing the Lard is supposed to open the windows of heaven. It seems to me if a person is paying tithing you should never be in a position to draw unemployment. You shouldn't have to worry about losing your job. The Lard takes care of these things because you paid your tithing.

Yeah...

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