They planned for the excommunications but didn't want to do it right away.
https://www.lds.org/ensign/2008/07/sharing-the-gospel-using-the-internet?lang=eng
"You can write to media sites on the Internet that report on the Church and voice your views as to the accuracy of the reports. This, of course, requires that you understand the basic principles of the gospel. It is essential that you are able to offer a clear and correct witness of gospel truths. It is also important that you and the people to whom you testify understand that you do not speak for the Church as a whole. You speak as one member—but you testify of the truths you have come to know."

They waited a couple of years for something to grow on The Internet to challenge their rules - "clear and correct witness of gospel truths." Then they put into the motion the rounding up of what had grown big enough for excommunication.

The September Six was the same. They allowed freedom from on high in the highest leaders ignoring the growing voices of the dissent and then took swift action against a handful as a warning to others.

And they will do it again and again and again.

They won't come out with doctrine to avoid this problem of dissenting voices. They won't make it in black and white print - just like Joseph Smith stopped doing. He stopped getting himself a revelation to handle these problems like "continuing revelation" was designed to be.

As Joseph Smith got older he got bolder. These guys are no different.

Remember Brigham Young and the Godbeites? I just checked Ron Walker's book, Wayward Saints: The Godbeites and Brigham Young, to check on a fact for a different issue, but I was distracted as I read some of the pages about Godbe and Harrison's excommunication trials.

One big difference though, BY had the guts to face them down and kick them out himself.

Well, at least TSCC can't burn down the internet, like Ole Joe did the Expositor.

This is classic: ...."Social networks on the Web can be used to expand healthy friendships as easily as they can be used by predators trying to trap the unwary. That is no different from how people choose to use television or movies or even a library. Satan is always quick to exploit the negative power of new inventions, to spoil and degrade, and to neutralize any effect for good. Make sure that the choices you make in the use of new media are choices that expand your mind, increase your opportunities, and feed your soul.".... These motherf*#!ers are good, notice how easy he moved from the very real threat of predators trolling teen chat rooms to satan has a hand in film and t.v. production & he writes books too. Then ballard says, put brainwashing on heavy duty cycle, promote the church , those warm fuzzies mean the church is twoo. These guys are master manipulators, ole joe would be proud

That it is, and the LD$ Cult is rather angry that in one swift blow or the lighting of one match, it cannot bring it down. They would so prefer to operate this way, but isn't it fun to watch them squirm and fannagel (however it is spelled), try this, try that, in their manipulations?

I like to think of them being CAUGHT in the NET. (I tend to picture the cult looking like the evil octopus in The Little Mermaid movie and being all tangled in a fisherwoman's net)

And, I think they are caught mighty tightly in the Net; sure, they are trying to break free, but IMHP, they will never succeed.



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presleynfactsrock Wrote:
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> They would so prefer to
> operate this way, but isn't it fun to watch them
> squirm and fannagel (however it is spelled), try
> this, try that, in their manipulations?

As fun as it is to watch a pyramid scheme grow and evolve in a self serving manner and watching the toll it takes on people believing its lies only LDS Inc. is worse in that the lies are about riches in the hereafter and not just lies whoppers like becoming some kind of patriarch/matriarch having sex and hanging out with people you are "over."

Alternating cycles of reform and retrenchment are pretty common throughout history. Usually it is the normal cycle of advance and retreat as society tries to hit a balance. Victorian prudery followed by WWI and the Roaring 20s, then WWII and white bread Eisenhower years, then the 60's Watergate and back to conservative Reagan years.

The cycle can also be manipulated on a smaller scale to out people who may harbor ideas that run counter to the elite. The leaders give the followers a little slack, wait to see you runs with it, then cut them down.

So true and John Dehlin walked right into after having been an young adult when The September Six happened.

It is tragic for him I guess. Fatal flaw not to heed the voice of warning from history.

You can't even bribe LDS Inc. with a mission statement that says you are helping them. They are in charge and retention is their problem not your. You are their "Christian Soldier" to their generalship and no matter how many people you influence, you are a threat to them. You have to go.

Funny how the formerly FARMs debacle went down with Dehlin and Greg Smith. I bet those Maxwell Institute old timers are fuming that Dehlin should have been "FAIR" game long ago!

You're right about the generals and the cannon-fodder ranks. The GA's attitude resembles the Duke of Wellington's who supposedly didn't like his soldiers cheering as it displayed "too nearly an expression of opinion."

If the COB wanted members to have an independent thought, they would have told us what it was.

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> If the COB wanted members to have an independent
> thought, they would have told us what it was.

But they do semi-anally and they call it being uniquely who God made you to be.