I was looking at this MP announcement, and was shocked to learn that the new MP of San Diego will be a 40 year-old man (he's at the bottom of the list):

https://www.lds.org/church/news/eight-new-mission-presidents-called-to-serve?lang=eng

Is the Morg getting desperate? Is it harder to find men in their 50s and 60s? Or has this guy been groomed, possibly with some connections to the suits in the COB?

As a side note, the San Diego mission is known for having MPs that are more well-connected. The MP from 2005-2008 was Boyd K.'s nephew, and the next mission president was a CES muckity-muck. San Diego is also where the powers at be chose to film the missionary training video "The District."

What a bummer to be 40 and a mission president

Not for this type of guy. He's in heaven and the toast of his entire family and LDS social group.

And living an incredibly boring life devoted to the propogation of BS

I wonder how they will handle the wife situation. Missionaries aren't allowed to be alone with any females under 50. Or, is his wife older than him?

Unless they've changed the rules recently, missionaries aren't supposed to be alone with any female period. That was the rule when I was out several years ago. I turned down plenty of nice elderly women who invited us in.

Missionaries are never alone with the MPs wife anyway.

Unless they're having sex.

What's his job or career that allows someone so young to serve!??

He's a lawyer for Baker Hughes. Baker Hughes is one of the world's largest oilfield services companies. It operates in over 90 countries, providing the oil and gas industry with products and services for drilling. His wife is a medical doctor.

Righteousness = Money? or Money = Righteousness? This guy may be alright. At 40 he is certainly on his way to the top of the LDS corporate ladder.

Many of the real Christ-like people I know, and have known in the TSCC were never chosen to lead anything if there were people in the ward who had more money. Jesus Christ Himself would never be a leader in the Mormon Church. Hell, he couldn't even attend BYU Idaho according to Kim B. Clark. Dust your feet off Jesus and burn this church down!



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Doubting Thomas Wrote:
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> He's a lawyer for Baker Hughes. Baker Hughes is
> one of the world's largest oilfield services
> companies. It operates in over 90 countries,
> providing the oil and gas industry with products
> and services for drilling. His wife is a medical
> doctor.
>

Hmmm...Are the TX oil tycoons & TeaPartiers sending their "agent" man to connect with SD/SoCal local repugs for the upcoming elections-2016?

They've heard the ExMo complaints about stodgy oldsters running the show. A new young and vibrant look seems to be in their plans, the company's new and improved' product. It fits in with the younger missionary ages. This may be a way of keeping the younger members more interested in staying.

So?????????????

I'd like to be in the sessions where they assign people to different church career tracks!

Inspiration? Not Much!

No they love these young guys with money. It's all about money.

Well, he is a stake president AND an ATTORNEY. Next logical step for this guy is to be a mission president and then a GA.

Yeah, it's not just MP at 40, he's currently a Stake President, formerly a Stake President's counselor, a high councilman, and a Bishop. Based on all that the guy was likely a bishop in his 20's.

My mission prez was 33 when he was called. That was 25 years ago.

I knew a mission pres that went at 40-42.. he lived in my ward growing up and about 6 months in to his sentence I got a letter from him telling me he had stolen my 8 track tape player and 8 track tapes 25 years earlier.
He asked for forgiveness, repentance and wanted to send me some cash to make it all go away. Guess he couldn't sleep at night knowing he stole my Santana, Steppenwolf and Buffalo Springfield tapes.
I was tempted to mess with him but in the end I never replied.
Somewhere I have the letter on Mission Letter Head. If I find it I'd share.

A bit surprised his wife is a medical doctor. About 20 years ago my second mission president was called at about 36 as I remember. He was a career church employee though who had been over training at the mtc.

My MP in 1969, Sherman Hibbert, was barely 35 when he was called to Brasil. His wife, Joanne, was 30. He was a lawyer and former Army ranger. I've written about him before so won't repeat but he was a piece of work. I heard later he'd been sent home early due to overworking himself (and his missionaries). Lots of guys from his era really hated him.

He was home about 10 years and passed away from cancer, really quick and painful from what his wife said. She came to the last mission reunion I went to, about 1985 and told his story.



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This could be interesting. The fact that she is an MD and a gospel doctrine teacher to me are very strong indicators that she thinks the church is bullshit. I've known many of that combination over the years and they are more than usually NOT true believers. Wonder if she thinks her husband is a goofy bastard for being such a Mormon? Wonder if he believes it at all?

https://www.lds.org/church/leader/l-whitney-clayton?lang=eng

The President of the Toronto Mission will be Weatherford Clayton, younger brother of Whitney Clayton, of the Presidency of the Seventy and chief architect of the Yes on 8 effort by TSCC. Weatherford was Newport Beach SP at the time the Newport Beach temple opened. He closed down his OC OB practice and moved to Utah to start an OB Hospitalist group, a group of OB MDs who deliver babies in hospitals so that the office OBs can sleep. Since he no longer has a practice per se, he can serve as MP and then return to work for his group afterward (though there would be competency issues because he might be rusty after five years of no deliveries----hospitals expect docs to have high volumes otherwise they think skills are slipping).

Richard M. Eyre was 32 when he was called and that was almost 40 years ago. His wife had a baby whilst they were on their mission.

If he's this young as a Mission President there's maybe a chance he could become an Area Seventy or General Authority later on.

I served under 2 MPs back in the 1960s. Ages 38 and 40 iirc. One is still alive, almost 50 years later.

And from the same article in the OP there is this other new mission president:

William Weatherford T. Clayton, 61

Who is he?

1) Previous Stake President in Newport Beach, CA (next to the temple) and

2) The younger brother of L. Whitney Clayton, of the Presidency of the 70 (he has had his second anointing).

Remember: Whitney Clayton was part of the threesome (Elders Cook, Ballard and Clayton) that pushed the CA Prop 8 in the LDS sponsored video to kill marriage equality. After the PR disaster, Clayton was re-assigned away from California. He looks to be self-grooming for an Apostleship opening. Now his little brother is working his way up the ranks. Nepotism with Clayton the younger?

As we all know from our RFM poster Anointedone (AKA Tom Phillips), a previous stake president at sufficient age can receive his Second Anointing BEFORE he becomes a Mission President. After Philips received his SA he wrote that he was preparing to serve a mission (Mission President). http://www.mormonthink.com/files/tom-phillips-second-anointing.pdf

Whitney was appointed to the Presidency of the Seventy AFTER Prop 8. As you correctly point out, this involved moving him away from CA, where his actions caused tremendous fall out and bad PR for TSCC. It was as if they were promoting/rewarding him for his work, while moving him away from an area where his presence was deleterious for TSCC.

Weatherford was Newport Beach SP during the run-up to the temple there. It caused enormous controversy due to the original design's non-adherence to city codes, with the following changes made to "the Lord's design" before the city would sign off on it:

1. No lighting after 10 pm (parking lot lights, yes; temple, no)

2. No pageants or festivals

3. No white exterior; color changed to a buff pink-tan called "seashell"

4. Sidewalk on Bonita Canyon Rd preserved; no fence taking up the sidewalk which would preclude protesters on public property (the sidewalk).

5. Original spire height 149 feet. City said no. The Lord dropped the plans to 129, city still said no. TSCC argued that spire had to be taller than adjacent stake center spire, which per TSCC was 86 feet. Neighbors hired surveyor, height of stake center spire calculated as 68 feet; TSCC then claimed typographical error. Church offered 99 feet, city said no. Finally, an offer of 89 feet was accepted.

The original design was very close to the Redlands temple, which was announced the same day and which has the same footprint (sq ft). The Redlands temple was permitted by the city with few or no changes, and the main difference between Redlands and Newport Beach is exterior color and a much shorter spire. And no late night lighting.

Only requirement is being rich. There was a new mission president that was in his 30's when I was in the MTC. Not sure where he was going, but he had young kids...like 1, 3 and 5. I wouldn't be suprised if they had another couple kids while they were on the mission.