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beyondashadow
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Date: October 26, 2014 08:50PM
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I'm ex-mo going on 35 years, and it's taken me a few decades to gradually lose any belief that Jesus ever existed as depicted in the New Testament. I threw out the virgin birth long ago. (Mary figured out how to conceive a child without having sex with Joseph ... her fiance', not Smith.)
I used to believe Jesus was an enlightened teacher who actually lived. But now I tend towards the theory that Christianity was constructed as an effective method to guiltify and control the masses - wildly successful, by the way.
http://jesusneverexisted.com/My first exposure to "spiritual" stuff post-Mormon was Ramtha. Years later I discovered David R. Hawkins, MD PhD and inhaled his books as he wrote them. Eastern spirituality concepts written for the Western mind. He died a couple years ago.
More recently I read (very slowly) and enjoyed being mind-challenged by "In Am That" transcriptions of talks with Nisargadatta Maharaj (died in 1981).
Currently I am reading stuff written by Nisargadatta's teachers, long since dead.
I now believe that advanced states of consciousness and awareness are possible, albeit rare, for human beings. The key to reducing pain and suffering in life is to cultivate the following ideas:
1. I am not my body.
2. I am not my mind (brain chatter) either.
3. Closer to who and what I am really is the silent awareness that is watching and listening to my brain chatter and body activities.
4. Deep within that silent awareness, the concept of separation from All that Is eventually disappears as illusion.
Mastering 1 and 2 is not too difficult. I would self-assess that I'm now flirting with 3 and nowhere near 4.
Reading the teachings of Realized Human Beings who live at 4 or beyond is a humbling experience with frequent Aha! moments. Their clarity of perception of Reality is awe inspiring. They all say pretty much the same thing in different words.
One has to work up to an appreciation of the teachings of Realized Masters ... whose words otherwise sound like circular nonsense. My own experience reading David Hawkins for years was great preparation for Nisargadatta and his teachers. He does not accept any religion as useful, even Hinduism.
In this context, regular religions and churches seem childish and distracting. The concepts of sin, judgment, salvation, atonement, post-death rewards are all silly nonsense.
Poor behavior choices generate their own consequences. No need for Silent Note Takers to keep accounts. Positive behavior choices result in nicer consequences.
One last comment: The journey of discovery of Spiritual Reality is the most exciting and exhilarating endeavor possible for human beings. It's a shame that we are so distracted and thrown off the trail by religions and churches. Spiritual Reality is the ultimate discovery of who and what we are and are not as human beings, and what the Universe and All Creation is all about, and what is our relation to all of that.
Or ... see how much of the above you can glean from General Conference and the Book of Mormon.